Dept of the Internet

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Hu_Fan
(10,000+ posts)
02/16/15 05:11 AM
Dept of the Internet

I'm not fully caught up on the latest in this latest of the latest government takeover of you-name-it. Don't forget, these departments all fall under the Executive Branch. With just a pen, the CEO sitting in the Oval Office can do anything he wishes with the regulation(s). As has been aptly proven during recent years.

The rule is this: if it exists, it can be regulated and taxed, all in the name of goodness, betterness?, fairness, ... to make sure everyone who can breathe is treated most fairly. The excuse to own, regulate, tax. I keep thinking the progressive liberals will get fed up with it by now.

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Monahorns
(1000+ posts)
02/16/15 12:35 PM
Re: Dept of the Internet

Time Warner upgraded my internet speed for free last week. Obama's plan will cost me extra money without providing any extra service. What is the point?

Bevo Incognito
(1000+ Posts)
02/16/15 01:33 PM
Re: Dept of the Internet

The irony of complaining about a government something (what, exactly, I'm not sure) while typing on a network that was conceived and birthed by the government is too delicious. Personally, I enjoy my current net neutrality and want it to continue.

Another thing I really hate is roads.





Monahorns
(1000+ posts)
02/16/15 02:29 PM
Re: Dept of the Internet

So as a liberterian you are for the government applying FCC regulations to the internet?

The federal government invented and built roads? Your logic is a little spotty on this one.

Hu_Fan
(10,000+ posts)
02/16/15 02:53 PM
Re: Dept of the Internet

Wiki says....

In reply to:
The history of the Internet begins with the development of electronic computers in the 1950s. Initial concepts of packet networking originated in several computer science laboratories in the United States, Great Britain, and France. The US Department of Defense awarded contracts as early as the 1960s for packet network systems, including the development of the ARPANET (which would become the first network to use the Internet Protocol.) The first message was sent over the ARPANET from computer science Professor Leonard Kleinrock's laboratory at University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) to the second network node at Stanford Research Institute (SRI).


As with all things the public is divided in point of view. It's part of life now. Take any subject and there will be two opposing views, usually about 50/50.

Breitbart report... In reply to:
Republican FCC Commissioner Ajit Pai said that proposed Internet regulation “mimics Obamacare” both in process and substance, was “adopting a solution that won’t work to a problem that doesn’t exist using legal authority we don’t have,” and would lead to “billions of dollars in new taxes” on Wednesday’s “Mark Levin Show.”

“I’ve got to tell you that I’ve heard from a lot of people who are amazed at how the entire process that this issue has progressed on, and the substance of it mimics Obamacare that Washington bureaucracy would keep this plan in the dark, wouldn’t release it until after it was voted on, and you have the FCC, or any federal agency essentially micromanaging the private sector” he stated.

Pai declared that, “in [an] unprecedented fashion, right after the November elections the president announced, not just what he wanted the FCC to do, but the very legal foundation by which he wanted the FCC to it.”

Pai also railed against the lack of transparency, arguing “a monumental shift in favor of government control of the Internet and the American public is not going to be able to see it until after the FCC votes on it.”

He continued that, “nowhere does the agency identify any kind of systemic harm in the Internet economy, but nonetheless it invents one in order to regulate it, and so it’s this classic situation where we’re adopting a solution that won’t work to a problem that doesn’t exist using legal authority we don’t hav.”

He added that the regulations were “rate regulation of the kind we used to do for railroad monopolies in the 19th century and telephone monopolies in the early 20th century,” the “end result” of which would be “government control of virtually every aspect of the Internet.” He also stated they would lead to “billions of dollars in new taxes” by re-classifying broadband services, which according to an estimate he read, would cost $11 billion in new taxes on Internet access, and the “FCC micromanaging what services plans you’re allowed to choose from.”


Bevo Incognito
(1000+ Posts)
02/16/15 03:15 PM
Re: Dept of the Internet

In reply to:
The federal government invented and built roads? Your logic is a little spotty on this one.


And yet my logic is infinitely greater than your reading comprehension.
Hu_Fan
(10,000+ posts)
02/16/15 10:04 PM
Re: Dept of the Internet

I give up

Hu_Fan
(10,000+ posts)
02/17/15 12:31 AM
Re: Dept of the Internet

Here is an objective, definitive article on the topic.
I only got through page 1 of 3. By style and tone and obvious content, does not aggressively push a point of view that I could tell. If any, dissuades fear and promotes it might not be a negative. A cable lobby lawyer wrote this, so it's weighted in legal content and writing. It's at least a starting point to add to exploration.

As I suspected, it's complex. My main objective is I just don't trust the federal government. It's too prone to special interests in the hip pocket, and it's more often than not convoluted and prone to inefficiency and with outcomes that follow Peter Principle #2: costs always outweight benefits.

Here it is... link
from: arstechnica dot com, Dec 17, 2014
"Making the Internet a utility—what’s the worst that could happen?"

It may be prejudiced in a particular way, but the amount I read did not seem to be. I stand corrected if it's heavily biased and I could not sense it.

Bevo Incognito
(1000+ Posts)
02/17/15 03:04 AM
Re: Dept of the Internet

My son's friend Wiley Patel says it better than I ever could:

The Link

Crockett
(2500+ posts)
02/17/15 04:16 AM
Re: Dept of the Internet

I always have a continue to believe Teddy Roosevelt a hero for standing up for small business and the middle class against the to the trusts, the railroad monopolies, the Wall Street scammers. Good thing we had him to stand up against JP Morgan and John Rockefeller. Has business changed so much that they wouldn't screw us if they were allowed to? I don't think so.