Democratic National Convention - 2012

MojoMan

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A nice first night for the Democrats.
Julian Castro is an up and comer from San Antonio and his keynote speech was surely not be the last we will see from him. His twin brother is apparently running for Congress right now as well, so we could have a Castro tag-team in the making. He speaks very well and used his speech to introduce himself and to press the class warfare theme that President Obama has made a central theme of his presidency and his campaign.

Castro made a pitch to voters based largely on emotional lines, identifying closely with immigrants and the multi-generational climb from poverty to the American dream that he and his family have enjoyed, while diminishing Mitt Romney's success and his subsequent inability to identify with lower income people by insisting that Romney "doesn't get it".

Castro's speech was especially interesting for how it contrasted with the Republican keynote speech delivered by Christ Christie last week with regards to government policy. Castro insisted that opportunity comes largely from the government and that what is needed is to tax the rich more, and then to redistribute that wealth (and more) as directed by government through a myriad of government programs. In other words, he was defending the status quo role of government and all of its various programs, without speaking constructively about fixing the spiraling national debt or the need to reform our government.

Chris Christie on the other hand, laid out a bold vision for what was required to save our nation from financial disaster and to take on the very difficult choices that will need to be made to reform our government, making it effective in its limited role not only for this generation, but for generations to come.

Here is a key quote from Castro's speech:

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The GOP is circling the drain. It is plain to see and most who aren't miseducated, dimwitted or criminally insane can see it.

GOP has essentially become the party of narrow-minded whites. It really is quite sad.
 
It appears that the Democrats have removed any reference to God from the Democratic platform this year for the first time. Also, the standard reference to Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel was removed from the platform as well.
Not that these platforms are in any way determinative about how people will vote or what a party's policies in office will actually be, but the parties do publish these platforms and they usually do receive a bit of scrutiny around convention time, if not at any time after that.

In any case, I was taken a bit by surprise when I saw Senator Dick Durbin asked about these changes in an interview with Bret Baier. Here is a link to the video:

Durbin defensive over changes to Democratic Party platform
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/special-report-bret-baier/videos#p/86927/v/1823055089001

Testy, testy. Well, someone seems to be sensitive concerning these changes, anyway.
 
I am an independent and there is no way I am voting for the GOP. I am not alone. I know a ton of independents here in Michigan and none of us would consider voting for this GOP. You pick the lesser of two evils and the Obama/Dems are the lesser of two evils. And it isn't at all close because the GOP has gone crazy.

I don't care what the national polls say. I don't think this election is going to be as close as people think. Almost all the indys I know (even some who have lost their jobs) are voting for Obama.

I am certain that Obama will win both Michigan and Iowa. I will be very surprised if Romney wins Wisconsin. I think Romney gets more Electoral Votes than McCain but it still won't be close.

I don't care how many minority officials are affiliated with the GOP. This is a BS argument. Dems get the bulk of the minority vote and that is not changing. Nobody considers this GOP as a welcoming place for minorities. Texas will likely go Dem over the next decade. The demographic realities will be (and should be) the end of this brand of GOP (good riddance!).

Demographics aside, here is the key issue that I have seen all across the nation: the smart people and the youth favor the Dems. That is all you need to know. I have been to conference halls full of Dems and conference halls full of Repubs. The average IQ always seems to be 20 points lower in the red room.
 
Mojo - you describe yourself as independent but you appear to be as closed minded as they come. Very unconvincing.
 
The two speeches I listened too, Michelle Obama and Castro, they both did a good job. Michelle and Ann Romney's speeches were both predictable.

Castro, I wouldn't expect anything different from a Democrat. It is what their reality tells them is true and that is the game that the President's re-election team has been playing.

Nothing extraordinary or unexpected.

The Israel and god thing makes me think the Democrats are giving up Florida.

Debbie Waserman Shultz, is as bad as Pelosi and Reid. I wonder what President Obama feels like to be the King of the Morons?
 
Under what name did Wash U used to post?
the bitterness and vitriol seem the same as someone fro the past

and Sure we believe this " independent " has been to halls full of Dems and Pubs and somehow this " Indie" knew right away that the Dem hall's IQ average was 20 points lower in the GOP hall.

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The poor give their sons.

It is of interest that none of the four people running for the top spots this year ever spent a day in uniform. Biden got more student deferments than Cheney; Obama never even thought of joining; nor, from what I can tell did Ryan.

Only Romney ever wanted to serve in the military and he did his wanting while bicycling around France searching for converts to his faith. And never found a one.

They are all a bunch of self serving careerist jerks. The only difference between them is which bunch of plutocrats they have sold out to.
 
I disassociated myself from the Republican party 5 years ago. I am not part of any party. I am not an indy, I am not a moderate, I am a conservative, not a libertarian. I second that Mojo.
 
DFWAg,

Couldn't that chart be misleading? HHs in the lowest quintiles may include a lot of elderly or single person hhs. To more accurately reflect whether a particular quintile was over or under represented you would need to know how many hhs in each quintile had an age-eligible (for military service) person living in it and go from there.
 
The Obama campaign has cancelled his acceptance speech at the Bank Of America stadium tomorrow night. The official explanation is concern about the weather, but inside sources have indicated the real reason is doubts about their ability to fill the stadium.
Normally, the Democrats would just bus in union members from all over to fill the seats, but the unions are boycotting this convention, as North Carolina is a right-to-work state. The Obama campaign had been working hard to bus in students from surrounding cities and states, but it appears that there is just not enough enthusiasm from the youngsters to get 'er done.

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What's up with the British DailyMail suddenly becoming the favorite source of news for the right? Is FoxNews not spinning this decision negatively enough for your tastes?
 
I don't intend to vote for either of those two Ivy League jerkoffs (and hope to not vote for Ivy League presidential wannabe Castro at some future date), so I am kinda objective.

The question as to whether Obama should be replaced with Romney comes down to whether he is a failure. Two ways to look at it and I don't have a clear idea on either's veracity.

He is a failure because he has not dragged us out of the hole we were in when he took office. He is not a failure because, though he has not dragged us out of the hole, he did not let us fall 1500 feet to our deaths, which was where we were headed when he took the wheel.

I don't know which characterization is correct but both have some merit to anybody who is not a dogmatic true believer.

He was just using standard Keynesianism when he tried to stimulate us and they have all been doing that since at least Kennedy. I am not a Keynesian but find it hard to fault somebody for using the standard tool at hand.

I don't see that Romney has a plan that is anything but another whirl on the floor with Rosy Scenario, my favorite Spanish Dancer but not a life partner.

Cutting taxes to stimulate the economy might work as he and his Randian partner suggest, but the extra money may not be used to invest in expansion----it might be used to just further deleverage. Which is my guess and what I would do if I was running a company with debt.

Who knows? I don't.

The lesson I draw from history is that in times like these we should grab somebody else's territory, especially if it has oil on it. The conquest of Mexico or Canada could be done with more bloodshed than Iraq or Afghanistan but much better payoffs in the end. He joked.
 

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