Debt Deal and the Republican Party

[A. BETTIK]

When all the House Republicans had to do was nothing to start balancing the budget, they caved and showed themselves to be no better than their fellow socialists in the Senate and Presidency.

As a result of this disgustingly craven vote, to me at least, Republicans are now no longer viable as a party worthy of support in time and money. It is time I start cultivating replacement TEA party factions.

 

[Bevo Incognito]

I'm not sure how doing nothing would have started to balance the budget.

 

[Ag with kids]

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[mcbrett]

After cutting entitlement programs, laying off tens of thousands of govt. employees, reducing defense spending and infrastructure- my question is- what is the Tea Party plan to help stimulate the economy and create jobs, which as we all know is the easiest way to balance a budget (by generating more revenue.)

I'm not saying I don't agree with many aspects of some of the cuts, but- really, on the jobs front, do tea party people ever think about this? How competitive is the US going to be in 20-30 years if we're investing nothing in ourselves while the Chinese and Europeans are?

 

[Ag with kids]

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[mcbrett]

Ag- your quote is true and I like it. However, given the same folks here criticize Obama for not creating jobs, shouldn't they expect the same from the party that opposes him? Or does the Tea Party focus on only one aspect of one issue out of thousands that a govt. faces?

My point is fairly simple, cutting spending is definitely needed in many areas, and most agree with that. However, in isolation and without anything else, it hurts an economy further- and ignores the basic premise that jobs do much more to balance a budget than do spending cuts. So, I repeat it again- what is the Tea Party plan to create jobs in the face of their ideas that reduce jobs?

 

[msdw24]

That is what the republican party is right now. A bunch of freaking pansies!

I will also no longer give $$$$ to the party, rather I will only support canidates that will support a balanced budget and LESS spending. Boehner and the rest have no backbone and my trust in the supposedly party of fiscal responsibility has been damaged.

 

[TexasGolf]

republicrates & demolicans

2 party system has failed

 

[Horn6721]

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Most conservatives and many Repubs understand a POTUS does not create provate sector jobs. Most also understand this POTUS has created enough gov't jobs.
If the POTUS stays out of the way and stops putting obstacles in the way of the provate secto, job creation that would go a long way.

 

[mcbrett]

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[A. BETTIK]

To create jobs the out of control socialized centralized government should reduce regulation, debt, taxes, barriers to energy production and oil fields, EPA standards etc. to a point where we can compete domestically with China, a continent away. Free trade doesn't seem to work unless with like economies, so centralized government should appropriately impose steep tariffs on China for being communist and inferior to our economic rules and regulations as they currently exist.

Currently affiliated Republicans in the United States House of Representatives who correctly voted against the final debt deal on August 1, 2011:

Akin
Amash
Bachmann
Bishop (UT)
Brooks
Broun (GA)
Buerkle
Burton (IN)
Chaffetz
Cravaack
Davis (KY)
DesJarlais
Duncan (SC)
Flake
Fleischmann
Fleming
Forbes
Franks (AZ)
Garrett
Gingrey (GA)
Gohmert
Gowdy
Graves (GA)
Griffith (VA)
Hall
Harris
Hartzler
Huelskamp
Hultgren
Hunter
Johnson (IL)
Jones
Jordan
King (IA)
Kingston
Labrador
Lamborn
Landry
Latham
Mack
McClintock
Mulvaney
Neugebauer
Nunes
Paul
Pearce
Poe (TX)
Posey
Quayle
Rehberg
Roby
Rokita
Ross (FL)
Scalise
Schweikert
Scott (SC)
Scott, Austin
Southerland
Stearns
Stutzman
Tipton
Turner
Walsh (IL)
Westmoreland
Wilson (SC)
Yoder

Link

 

[fratboy_legend]

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[Bevo Incognito]

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[Horndale]

You don't think we would have serviced the debt out of income?

Good grief.

 

[huisache]

Don't you republicans remember that "deficits don't matter?"

 

[Bob in Houston]

First skirmish of a long war. It was leveraged well against a deadline of the president's doing.

About one-quarter of the House moved the vast majority of the Legislative Branch off of Business as Usual.

Lots more to do, but this was OK.

I may be swimming upstream on this thread, but whatever.

 

[majorwhiteapples]

I have already sent my Republican House member Dr. Michael Burgesss a letter that I will support his opposition in the primary with both money, my time, and everything I can do to insure he does not win the primary.

I am now throwing my full support behind Bachmann. Win or Lose, I will stand my ground and there will be no compromise.

Hell Compromise time and time again has been the root of all that is wrong with this country.

 

[Horn89]

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[Horn6721]

mcbrett
you posted, "Ahh good to hear you no longer will criticize Obama for the unemployment rate then"
Now that is funny

As I said conservatives understand the Pres doesn't create private sector jobs
show me where I blamed him for unemployment.show me
BUT
this is too easy to pass up

Nov 2008 Pres-elect Obama promises 2..5 m5illion jobsThe Link

By Jan 09 it is 3 MillionThe Link

that went so well

in June 09 he promises 600,000
june09
The Link

Obama FINALLYrealizes he may not have the jobs prediction numbers game down pat so he baks up to just promising to create jobs
sept 2010The Link src="www.hornfans.com/images/icons/tongue.gif" border=0>OLITICS

and yesterdayThe Link


Should a President be held accountable for something he says over and over?

 

[Bob in Houston]

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[upset_horn]

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[dheiman]

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[Wesser]

Call me crazy, but I think that the tea party won a significant victory here and is having a hard time dealing with winning. Is the deal 100% of what they wanted? No. But it is a helluva lot closer to what they wanted than to what Obama did. The real story out of this is how far the tea party drove this the discussion to the right. It was so far right that Pelosi wasn't even consulted on it by the Dems, who used Hoyer instead. Pelosi has been rendered irrelevant in the current House since so many of her own caucus have shifted center-right as the result of the tea party re-alignment of the House.

The biggest win is the guaranteed vote on a balanced budget amendment. Been wanting that for years. Liberals have always fought against ever bringing it up for a vote because they will have to vote no - knowing how toxic that vote would be. The fact that the vote will happen is a huge win.