Coronavirus

[WillUSAF]

U.S. CDC tells states to prep for COVID-19 vaccine distribution by November

 

[Driver 8]

What about kids in college getting the disease? They are healthy although they are asymptomatic they are still getting it.

Without symptoms you're not sick and you're not dying, that's the point
It's the "Daily Recitation of Cases" I talked about earlier
People want to lose their **** over "cases" in people that are doing just fine
The number of cases doesn't tell us anything meaningful but the sheeple just do what they are told

 

[Driver 8]

Put another way
A person tests positive for Covid
Do they have symptoms? No?
Then so what

 

[WillUSAF]

Put another way
A person tests positive for Covid
Do they have symptoms? No?
Then so what

You can still transmit it. THATS the point. My father is in a nursing home (haven't been able to see him for months) and I don't want him to get it. And my wife sees it all the time. Its not pseudo science like ya'll think it is.

 

[WillUSAF]

Without symptoms you're not sick and you're not dying, that's the point
It's the "Daily Recitation of Cases" I talked about earlier
People want to lose their **** over "cases" in people that are doing just fine
The number of cases doesn't tell us anything meaningful but the sheeple just do what they are told

Numbers don't mean anything to me. Governments have screwed up the numbers so bad.

 

[Driver 8]

You can still transmit it. THATS the point. My father is in a nursing home (haven't been able to see him for months) and I don't want him to get it. And my wife sees it all the time. Its not pseudo science like ya'll think it is.

I'm truly sorry you have not been able to see your father. My father has been gone for while and I miss him
I don't think it is pseudoscience, I think the world is not going to avoid its spread and those who are at risk should do what they need to do but it is absurd to shut everything down and take ridiculous measures

 

[WillUSAF]

I'm truly sorry you have not been able to see your father. My father has been gone for while and I miss him
I don't think it is pseudoscience, I think the world is not going to avoid its spread and those who are at risk should do what they need to do but it is absurd to shut everything down and take ridiculous measures

I'm so sorry about your dad. I miss mine too. I think we can help with masks. I don't agree on shutting everything down. I don't think that ever should have happened.

 

[theiioftx]

I think the bigger priority is isolation for the compromised. I lost my Dad almost a year ago. He was 90 and lived a great life. I’m thankful though he isn’t going through 2020. As a Marine and proud American , he would have been disgusted with our current state.

 

[theiioftx]

My wife is a nurse at Cleveland Clinic. She deals with Covid patients. I believe her and the doctors she works with.

She is wearing a N95 right? Ask her to wear a regular surgical mask or bandanna and see what she says. And yes, I know the public masks are supposed to be protecting others. Show me one study that proves it does.

 

[Mr. Deez]

I don't agree on shutting everything down. I don't think that ever should have happened.

Early on, I think the lockdowns were pretty defensible. We had no idea what the hell was going on. It seemed very contagious and difficult to control. We saw what it did in Lombardi, Italy and New York City, and it was pretty scary. Though it was unclear how much of a risk it was for younger people, it seemed pretty lethal to older people and those who weren't otherwise healthy. Furthermore, we had no idea how to treat it. Remember the liberal governors whining for ventilators? We don't hear much about those anymore. The point is that the "experts" were all over the map. They faked expertise in their rhetoric and tone but actually didn't know much more than anybody else.

Is locking down warranted now? Hell no. There isn't any big risk of this overwhelming the healthcare system, and we do generally know how to keep it from getting completely out of hand and how to protect those who are most at risk of death if they catch it. And the closing down of schools might be the dumbest thing we hear anybody suggesting.

 

[Mr. Deez]

This guy has a lot of economic degrees. How much real world experience?

So all of the doctors and scientists that have "real world" experience don't know what they are talking about? Your video is weak.

That same movie also illustrated someone with real world experience. "I was there.". The doctors Will's wife work with probably sound like this. "I wasn't in a lab, hoping I was right, thinking about it. I was up to my knees in Covid patients with people coughing everywhere, going against the virus, slugging it out with it, while ******* like you were at home posting on the internet and arguing about Goddam masks!!"

 

[mb227]

So all of the doctors and scientists that have "real world" experience don't know what they are talking about? Your video is weak.

And no one said to shut the country down. Its about masks.....

I was merely making a joke about the guy who is the "Constitutional Scholar". That's why I added a at the end.

Seems that Dion has quit including a sense of humor with the new sponsorships...

 

[horninchicago]

Seems that Dion has quit including a sense of humor with the new sponsorships...

To be fair, he did basically say oops and then liked my comment.

 

[mb227]

So all of the doctors and scientists that have "real world" experience don't know what they are talking about? Your video is weak.

And no one said to shut the country down. Its about masks.....

Why do you automatically discount the reports from medical professionals that have gone on record about the nothing-burger that the 'rona has been for THEIR facilities? One of my clients is married to a woman who works medical in a South Texas county. This has been such a non-event for them that they are actually laying medical staff off because they aren't needed. While they did have some 'rona patients in their ICU setting, it was not people there BECAUSE of 'rona, they were there for more pressing concerns but were also WITH 'rona. There IS a difference.

Kids testing positive but completely asymptomatic...another nothing-burger being served up in the effort to move the goalposts.

And yes, there ARE still people clamoring for shut-downs as evidenced by the nonsense ON some campuses and that was highlighted by the SF shutdowns that Nancy chose to ignore.

 

[horninchicago]

Why do you automatically discount the reports from medical professionals that have gone on record about the nothing-burger that the 'rona has been for THEIR facilities? One of my clients is married to a woman who works medical in a South Texas county. This has been such a non-event for them that they are actually laying medical staff off because they aren't needed. While they did have some 'rona patients in their ICU setting, it was not people there BECAUSE of 'rona, they were there for more pressing concerns but were also WITH 'rona. There IS a difference.

Kids testing positive but completely asymptomatic...another nothing-burger being served up in the effort to move the goalposts.

And yes, there ARE still people clamoring for shut-downs as evidenced by the nonsense ON some campuses and that was highlighted by the SF shutdowns that Nancy chose to ignore.

It's all to create job losses and then try to convince those people that it is Trump's fault. If they vote for Biden and the Dems all will be fixed.

Such a ruse. Idiots are falling for it though.

 

[mchammer]

Bloomberg article in today’s Chron about surging cases in SD, ND, and IA. The narrative is that it can pop up anywhere and it cannot be stopped. BS. It moves through the states and once it goes through a region it dies down. The media is still trying to create panic. Such BS

 

[nashhorn]

Whaaaa? Now Cuomo is saying Trump has always been trying to kill NYC? Good lord, sometimes I just cannot get over these people.

 

[mb227]

Bloomberg article in today’s Chron about surging cases in SD, ND, and IA. The narrative is that it can pop up anywhere and it cannot be stopped. BS. It moves through the states and once it goes through a region it dies down. The media is still trying to create panic. Such BS

Have not read the Bloomberg article, but I have noticed that so many play upon the reality that people do not understand discussions of rate. They are also seemingly incapable of rational thought and instantly buy the fear porn when an article talks about cases having doubled...saw such a piece about a West Texas county when they went from one case to two cases. Sure it was a doubling, but it was still only TWO cases...

I'm waiting for the next shift here in Texas given the drop in cases being reported as well as the fact that we are back under 14% of the positive tests still actually being in the 'active' category (less than 87K total active).

 

[horninchicago]

Nothing any Dem or media member, I know, redundant, says or does surprises me anymore.

 

[WillUSAF]

Why do you automatically discount the reports from medical professionals that have gone on record about the nothing-burger that the 'rona has been for THEIR facilities? One of my clients is married to a woman who works medical in a South Texas county. This has been such a non-event for them that they are actually laying medical staff off because they aren't needed. While they did have some 'rona patients in their ICU setting, it was not people there BECAUSE of 'rona, they were there for more pressing concerns but were also WITH 'rona. There IS a difference.

Kids testing positive but completely asymptomatic...another nothing-burger being served up in the effort to move the goalposts.

And yes, there ARE still people clamoring for shut-downs as evidenced by the nonsense ON some campuses and that was highlighted by the SF shutdowns that Nancy chose to ignore.

That is not the case at my wife's hospital. She works at one of the best hospital in the world. Asymptomatic people still spread the disease. If you don't believe that then you have bigger issues.
The shutdowns on college campuses, while it may be overreaching, makes sense for the schools. If 1 kid dies and their parents sue the school do you blame them to be preemptive? No.

 

[mb227]

That is not the case at my wife's hospital. She works at one of the best hospital in the world. Asymptomatic people still spread the disease. If you don't believe that then you have bigger issues.
The shutdowns on college campuses, while it may be overreaching, makes sense for the schools. If 1 kid dies and their parents sue the school do you blame them to be preemptive? No.

You don't take an action based on what COULD happen to a small number of people. Outdoor baseball stadiums occasionally have bee problems. Do you cancel all games in outdoor stadiums because one player, one fan or one stadium worker might be allergic to stings? Hell no.

We ALSO don't close schools because of the flu, which is ALSO something that kills several thousand on an annual basis.

This over-reaction is precisely because the Wuhan Flu got politicized. People WANT to be back at work. Kids SHOULD be in school. The economy should be fully opened.

 

[mb227]

Wonder what they will do to move the goal posts with yet another day showing dropped numbers in Texas. Fewer than 4K positive tests and the number of active cases is under 85K. More than 527K recovered.

Guess this explains the fear-porn texts and robo-calls from Austin Public Health today...

 

[horninchicago]

Wonder what they will do to move the goal posts with yet another day showing dropped numbers in Texas. Fewer than 4K positive tests and the number of active cases is under 85K. More than 527K recovered.

Guess this explains the fear-porn texts and robo-calls from Austin Public Health today...

But, a really old person may die, so....

 

[WillUSAF]

You don't take an action based on what COULD happen to a small number of people. Outdoor baseball stadiums occasionally have bee problems. Do you cancel all games in outdoor stadiums because one player, one fan or one stadium worker might be allergic to stings? Hell no.

We ALSO don't close schools because of the flu, which is ALSO something that kills several thousand on an annual basis.

This over-reaction is precisely because the Wuhan Flu got politicized. People WANT to be back at work. Kids SHOULD be in school. The economy should be fully opened.

I'm lost for words.......you don't even make sense..

your argument is bee stings and the flu......

 

[Monahorns]

Early on, I think the lockdowns were pretty defensible. We had no idea what the hell was going on. It seemed very contagious and difficult to control. We saw what it did in Lombardi, Italy and New York City, and it was pretty scary.

I disagreed Deez just because orgs like CDC, NIH, and WHO already had knowledge of SARS and had pandemic types of plans available. None of them involved locking society down. They came out of left field and was never acceptable, especially when you had Sweden who actually followed through with what the previous plans said. You also had South Korea and Japan that did much less than here in terms of shutting businesses down.

This was malfeasance from the beginning.

 

[theiioftx]

I’ll go back to the beginning. It is a cold that seriously impacts compromised people. So does the flu. This is a political tool to remove Trump.

 

[Mr. Deez]

I disagreed Deez just because orgs like CDC, NIH, and WHO already had knowledge of SARS and had pandemic types of plans available. None of them involved locking society down.

But this didn't look like previous SARS outbreaks. It spread much faster.

They came out of left field and was never acceptable, especially when you had Sweden who actually followed through with what the previous plans said. You also had South Korea and Japan that did much less than here in terms of shutting businesses down.

I agree, but you're Monday morning quarterbacking. It's easy to say that now. It wasn't easy to say that in March.

This was malfeasance from the beginning.

There was definite malfeasance from the beginning, but it was in China.

 

[WillUSAF]

I’ll go back to the beginning. It is a cold that seriously impacts compromised people. So does the flu. This is a political tool to remove Trump.

This is one area I disagree. My father-in-law says the same thing.
Lets say for arguments sake your correct this is being done to just unset Trump. Why is almost every other country in the world doing or has done the same thing? Do they all want Trump gone too?

 

[theiioftx]

Rhetorical question?

 

[Monahorns]

But this didn't look like previous SARS outbreaks. It spread much faster.

I listened to a Korean doctor being interviewed. He said they based their response on SARS and that it behaved much the same way. Plus there have been corona viruses that have been studied in the US. The R0 was higher than previous strains, but it still wasn't as virulent as other viruses that epidemiologists have seen.

I agree, but you're Monday morning quarterbacking. It's easy to say that now. It wasn't easy to say that in March.

I think you missed the whole point. Epidemic plans were in place. Epidemiologists have studied and written about what should be done in the case of new outbreaks. They didn't follow any of it. They threw their carefully crafted plans in the trash and went hysterical because of politics. The decisions were strictly made from politics not science. I listened to several interviews from epidemiologists during the early parts of the outbreak. They knew better already.