The headline should be hospitalizations down 32%. Also, the people who have stopped coming in for testing are likely the ones that fear porn drove them to the testing sites in the first place.
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The irony with the whining about testing numbers dropping is that so many of the sites near me insist that you have symptoms before they will schedule you OR that you have been in contact with someone. They are not wanting people to show up who lack symptoms. This bolsters their false narrative about cases...
Seattle Husker
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Same in WA State. Went into effect immediately when stores put their own safety precautions in.
It's no problem for me to be conservative about my health. They are being reckless. Go to the bike show and sign a waiver: "Bystander will not pay taxes to pay for my mistakes."
That's what I'm saying.
That's good. For some reason, that is not becoming an issue over here. We're still using reusable bags.
NJlonghorn
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QUOTE="Mr. Deez, post: 1749945, member: 39847"]That's good. For some reason, that is not becoming an issue over here. We're still using reusable bags.[/QUOTE]
The store I shop in has an app that lets you scan and bag items as you shop. When done, you scan the "Checkout now" QR barcode at a self-serve kiosk, and your entire list shows up on the screen. Pay and go.
With this system, I can use reusable bags and nobody but me has to touch them. I was doing this pre-COVID.
The store I shop in has an app that lets you scan and bag items as you shop. When done, you scan the "Checkout now" QR barcode at a self-serve kiosk, and your entire list shows up on the screen. Pay and go.
With this system, I can use reusable bags and nobody but me has to touch them. I was doing this pre-COVID.
Because it was a stupid ban from the start? Oh wait, the "experts" couldn't figure out if it transferrable from surfaces. Jeez....
It is time to face facts:
1) America has overreacted to this virus.
2) The scientist experts have lost all credibility through recommendations that have changed multiple times.
3) The data is bad. There is no systematic approach to ensuring data collected is accurate.
4) Bad data leads to bad decisions.
5) Most of the population has a 99.9% chance of survival IF they contract it.
6) As humans, we live with risk everyday. This virus is not likely going away anytime soon. There is no way to quarantine our way out of it. Wearing masks will not either.
7) The media has major culpability for the destruction of our economy and the unnecessary deaths from suicide their fear porn has created.
8) The cure has been much worse than the virus itself.
1) America has overreacted to this virus.
2) The scientist experts have lost all credibility through recommendations that have changed multiple times.
3) The data is bad. There is no systematic approach to ensuring data collected is accurate.
4) Bad data leads to bad decisions.
5) Most of the population has a 99.9% chance of survival IF they contract it.
6) As humans, we live with risk everyday. This virus is not likely going away anytime soon. There is no way to quarantine our way out of it. Wearing masks will not either.
7) The media has major culpability for the destruction of our economy and the unnecessary deaths from suicide their fear porn has created.
8) The cure has been much worse than the virus itself.
Austin_Bill
2,500+ Posts
You missed the kill shot. Sweden said the lockdown strategy was developed and published in a single white paper that was never tested in real life. Further all previous studies shown it to be ineffective.
Somehow I missed that, but not surprised. I did read where humans immediately question any thing in a pandemic once the experts change their direction. Under these terms, failure began in February with wear gloves, but not masks.
That's not bad. The store I used to shop at in Germany (I arrived in the UK yesterday.) had a scan as you go option, but rather than using an app, they had you pick up handheld scanners. I tried that once before Covid and wasn't a big fan, so I stuck with traditional checkout. I just assume that the checkers in Germany wash their hands more regularly than those scanners are cleaned.
And the big "expert" in the UK who pitched it was willing to break his own rules to go bang somebody else's wife. Stuff like that coupled with obvious inconsistencies by many (though not all) experts on protesting and rioting hurts their credibility more than they know.
Monahorns
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Even if lockdowns worked. They aren't quarantines, btw. You don't quarantine healthy people. You wouldn't want to lockdown even if it did. We know this from the history of the Native Americans. At the time of the Europeans coming over, there were millions upon millions of people in the Americas. None of them had ever been exposed to the flu. The other part in the tragedy was that they had narrow genetic variation. Unfortunately their population's immune systems had a low level of ability to fight off flu.
It led to the flu killing 90% of all Native Americans. Millions died. If that population would have been exposed sooner or would have been in Asia they would have been protected by herd immunity. People would have died but millions less.
It is sad but the only way forward is what Sweden did. You still want to protect the sick and elderly, but part of that is achieving herd immunity in the general population. That means some will die now. But it prevents many more from dieing in the future.
It led to the flu killing 90% of all Native Americans. Millions died. If that population would have been exposed sooner or would have been in Asia they would have been protected by herd immunity. People would have died but millions less.
It is sad but the only way forward is what Sweden did. You still want to protect the sick and elderly, but part of that is achieving herd immunity in the general population. That means some will die now. But it prevents many more from dieing in the future.
Is that HEB-Go?
I like new hassle freeing technology.
Yet I have mixed feelings on this.
At the Kroger and others I go to most have several older cashiers who need to job to survive. They won't be learning to code.
Kroger does plenty of disinfecting masking shielding that I feel ok going through their lines.
Younger cashiers still have the opportunity to learn new trades.
A small thing I know
Yet I have mixed feelings on this.
At the Kroger and others I go to most have several older cashiers who need to job to survive. They won't be learning to code.
Kroger does plenty of disinfecting masking shielding that I feel ok going through their lines.
Younger cashiers still have the opportunity to learn new trades.
A small thing I know
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I just don't get the hysteria over this mostly harmless virus. It is, like every other virus known to man, going to unfortunately cause the death of some people. This happens. It is unfortunate but part of living on this planet.
Monahorns
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New Zealand proved that lockdowns don't work. Need to see how many cases they get now. They locked down hard and didn't have a case for 100 days. They need to ramp up testing and see just how many cases they have. I bet they had cases before they just didn't know about.
But it proves you can't stop a virus and without killing most of the human population too.
But it proves you can't stop a virus and without killing most of the human population too.
Joe Fan
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There would be a lot of gunshots to deal with in America if they started trying to pull people from their homes. I’m not sure we are too far from this idiocy though now. Nashville has arrested more people for not wearing masks than rioters.
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Joe Fan
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Yep if the Colonies had been populated with the bend over and take it people we have now, we'd all be British.
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