Congress asks Justice Dept to investigate

I can understand Congress citing the testimony of Pettitte as evidence of possible perjury. But why McNamee's as well? Hasn't that guy already admitted to lying on several occasions? That, to me, would discredit just about anything he's said.
 
Witch hunt continues - how can you not investigate McNamee as well?

What are they investigating?

Ok, now that you have the answer to that question, do you have the answer to your question?
 
I have no idea what point you were trying to get across but if they are investigating if Clemens lied under oath then I don't see how you wouldn't also investigate Brian.

Good Lord, I'm glad my tax dollars are going to this - I guess some of these dems are in a re-election year.
 
I have no idea what point you were trying to get across but if they are investigating if Clemens lied under oath then I don't see how you
wouldn't also investigate Brian.

You don't see a lot.

Let's see, the trainer and Pettitte both pretty much said that Roidger lied. It's pretty much accepted that Clemens lied about the party.

So why exactly would they think the trainer lied under oath?
 
A recent link to an NYT article.
The Link

Note this snippet: But by the end of last week, the Democratic majority on the committee had drafted a letter only asking that Clemens be referred. What was not clear was whether Waxman would get Republicans to go along. In the end, he did.

One reason he was able to do so, may be a reference in the letter to further information federal law enforcement authorities may have developed against Clemens.

“We also understand that federal law enforcement officials may have access to additional evidence on these matters,” the letter stated.

That may explain why some may not find this a "witch hunt" and why McNamee is not being investigated.
 
I hope Clemens is charged with perjury and is punished to the full extent of the law if it is proven that he lied to congress, which IMO is very likely.

Burn baby burn!
 
The whole ******* Mitchell Report is a joke. Why don't they investigate the conversation between David Cone and Brain McNamee where Cone said that MLB did not want drug testing?

Why not investigate the douche bag MLB owner who said he would have never signed Juan Gonzalez again if he had known that Juan had gotten off steroids?

That rant aside, if you stand up in front of Congress (or in court) and lie like that - you need to be punished. That is making a mockery of our government.
 
Our government makes a mockery of itself with **** like this.

He should have just said "I don't recall" like every other idiot before Congress and been done with it. Clemens either doesn't listen to his lawyer at all, or his lawyer sucks.
 
Beau,
I expected this from the beginning. I still do not think they will ever find Clemens guilty. If Canseco and others testify that he was not at that party then there is no way they have the evidence to prove he was there. That alleged picture will not make that happen.
Furthermore, Pettittes testimony is nowhere near enough to convict him on. There is no way a jury finds a conversation that one man claims was misheard and then corrected several years later when it was mentioned, to be enough to commit perjury. As I have stated before, if there had been multiple conversations then it would be a possibility to convict, but ONE. No way. Has anyone read Andy's deposition? If so, you would realize he was HORRIBLE and Waxman had to have his staff call up Andy's attorney to clean up some of his testimony. He contradicted himself over & over. That is why he was allowed out of that hearing. Does that mean I think Pettitte is a liar? No. I think he told the truth and thinks Roger said that. What I am saying is that he is a bad witness and will never be good enough to put Roger in jail.
Although, I will not be surprised if the Justice Department pursues it to some degree, I have very little doubt that Roger Clemens will never be convicted. The testimony of Brian McNamee is basically a non starter in this case. Clemens lawyers would destroy any credibility of him in a court. Unless the feds just want to scare other athletes, they will not pursue this. They know they will not win and the feds do not try cases they don't think they can win.
The evidence is very compelling in the court of public opinion. The evidence is circumstantial and lacking in a court of law.
Furthermore, I will continue to politic that Henry Waxman should be reprimanded for apologizing to a freakin admitted drug dealer with a national audience. I still cannot believe that is not getting more play. That was the most embarrassing moment of that day, and there were plenty.
 
I hope that once Roger is in jail, Piazza goes by and chunks a broken bat at him through the bars of his cell.

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I still give Clemens the benefit of the doubt. I will admit that there has been lies coming from him concerning the Mitchell Report and when he knew about it. However, the time line still allows that he found out what was in it after the report was complete. There is no evidence that Mitchell ever told him what was in it. I am not sure why Roger went that line.

I am just not convinced of McNamee's story. I just do not find him believable. As I stated in another thread, I have always been open on my opinion, unlike you or many others. You made your decision at the outset. I have reserved judgment and I still do.

if you put a gun to my head right now i would say that I do think Roger took HGH, but I am not positive of it. There is still no real compelling evidence. The only real "evidence" out there is McNamee's word, which I will never believe.

The biggest issue I have always had, and you can check every one of my post is how the public convicts before someone has a chance to answer. Once Roger has been given every chance to answer then a decision can be made. i hate the way people are treating this whole steroid story. I hate the fact that George Mitchell got paid $20 million for NOTHING. I hate the way Bud Selig handled it and is still Commish. I hate the way henry waxman handled himself in front of a national audience. The whole thing is a complete joke.

I find serious issue with the circumstances in which mcnamee spoke with George Mitchell. I find serious issue with Pettitte claiming they spoke twice about it, once when Roger tells him he took allegedly) and the other Roger refutes it. No other conversations over a 10 year period where they worked out together every day?

I find serious issue with McNamee claiming he told everyone NOT to use it when there are several people, INCLUDING Pettitte that says he told them it was not illegal and it was prescribed by doctors.

I have VERY SERIOUS issues with Mcnamee walking on all of this when he has lied over & over to federal authorities. The DISTRIBUTOR of illegal drugs walks while other could possibly go to jail?

Does none of that bother you at all?
 
I agree 100%. IF the feds do file charges, then he is screwed BIG TIME. The feds do not bring up charges unless they are positive they will win. If they find enough people to collaborate and prove beyond reasonable doubt that Roger lied, then he is in trouble.

At this point they are just looking into it. If they never file charges against Tejada, then Roger won't get charged either. Tejada has receipts and other physical evidence.
 
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