Handler XIII
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I've heard some rumors she will be taking over for Powers which would explain her spot on the playoff committee. She'd be a great hire for UT but does it appear Powers is going to be voted out tomorrow?
Condoleezza Rice - new UT Pres?
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I would hope Powers would not be voted out. Rice would be good but it would mean that Perry won and I don't like Perry's plans. Out of the nine members, Perry has 4. Maybe something has changed the voting. I could ask to find out, but it isn't my place. I guess we will all learn soon enough.
Rice would be an upgrade!
Given the direction Perry and his goons want to take the University, I can't imagine why they'd go after a Stanford faculty member. Seem like they would go someplace like Western Governors University, Texas State Technical College in Waco or DeVry Institute -- people who share their vision of higher education.
J D the Obscure
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Condi would launch a preemptive strike against Iraan, (Texas).
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What specifically do you have against Rice's qualifications as they apply to the job of UT President? I assume it is something other than her position as Secretary as State.
BTW, Powers is staying for now.
BTW, Powers is staying for now.
I read her dissertation from Denver; about par for the course for such junk. She has been an affirmative action beneficiary all her life. It is to her credit that she has worked as hard as she has and has always kept her eye on advancing herself but I generally detest career academic/governmnent
I read her dissertation from Denver; about par for the course for such junk. She has been an affirmative action beneficiary all her life. It is to her credit that she has worked as hard as she has and has always kept her eye on advancing herself but I generally detest career academic/governmnent bureaucrats.
She is to be commended for walking W back from the diving board into the empty pool that the wardog bureaucrats marched him onto but she did precious little to keep him from getting there to start with----she stood by and let them do it and made her move when even he noticed what a disaster it was.
There are dozens of people capable of doing just as good a job as her or better.
She is to be commended for walking W back from the diving board into the empty pool that the wardog bureaucrats marched him onto but she did precious little to keep him from getting there to start with----she stood by and let them do it and made her move when even he noticed what a disaster it was.
There are dozens of people capable of doing just as good a job as her or better.
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Josef Korbel may be one of the most influential Americans you've never heard of. He died in 1977, but his legacy lives on in his two most famous students: his daughter, Madeleine Albright, and his star pupil at the University of Denver, Condoleezza Rice.
Korbel was an up-and-coming Czech diplomat in 1948 when the communists staged a coup in his country. He fled Europe and ended up at the University of Denver, where he went on to found the school's Graduate School of International Studies.
Albright, Rice on Korbel
Both women say Korbel inspired them to pursue public service, and echoes of his abiding belief in the merits of American-style freedom are clear in their public statements.
The current and former secretaries of state talk to Guy Raz about Korbel's influence as a mentor and, in the case of Albright, as a father.
Rice says that one thing she thinks she shares with Albright is "the belief that democratic values are at the heart of peace and stability in the world."
But Albright, the first woman to serve as secretary of state, recalls what Rice said to her when Albright contacted her in 1987.
"Madeleine, I don't know how to tell you this," Rice told Albright, "but I'm a Republican." (Albright served in the administration of President Bill Clinton, a Democrat.)
Albright says she thinks her father would be upset by developments in U.S. foreign policy.
"It's ruined America's reputation," Albright says. "He cared so deeply about America and felt so strongly about what an important source of authority it was."
But Rice has a different interpretation of Korbel's philosophy.
"When we're faced with questions about why you are willing to risk so much on behalf of people in the Middle East, Iraqis or Afghans, it's hard for me to believe that he would have wanted them abandoned to tyranny," she says.
In today's politically polarized environment, polemicists seek out philosophical theories to explain and justify the behavior of contemporary leaders and thinkers.
That's one reason for the recent obsession with dead academics like Leo Strauss, a political philosopher who happened to educate — among others — president of the World Bank and former Bush official Paul Wolfowitz, writer Robert Kagan, academic Allan Bloom and journalist William Kristol.
As a result, Strauss has been dubbed the "father" of the so-called neo-conservative movement.
His students are, most certainly, influential today. But man for man (or rather, woman for woman), the less-well-known academic Josef Korbel has arguably had a more enduring and practical impact on the history of American policy.
He was a refugee from his native Czechoslovakia twice: first, as a young diplomat working for the government-in-exile in London while his beloved country was occupied by the Nazis, and then again after 1948 when Czechoslovakia became a Soviet satellite.
He landed in Colorado, where the University of Denver offered him a teaching post. Eventually, Korbel founded the school's Graduate School of International Studies, and by the time he died in 1977, he left behind a legacy that spawned two generations of top diplomats and leaders.
Most prominent among his proteges are two women: his daughter, Madeleine Albright, and a music major from Birmingham, Ala., who stumbled upon one of his lectures in 1973, Condoleezza Rice.
Korbel was a man who believed in America's enduring mission. He was a fierce anti-communist, an enemy of tyranny, and, like Lionel Trilling, Arthur Schlesinger and Eleanor Roosevelt, a liberal Cold War hawk.
On audio recordings of Korbel from the University of Denver, the distinctive themes that pervade the views of Madeleine Albright and Condoleezza Rice are present.
"Freedom knows no national barriers," Korbel says in one speech. "It scatters and deepens in all directions. An understanding of this changing face of freedom unveils the secret to progress and to peace."
It's a line that either Albright or Rice could have delivered. And, in their own distinctive way, both women have clearly channeled Korbel.
His daughter, Madeleine Albright, used to call the United States "the indispensable nation." It's a phrase that Josef Korbel could have easily coined.
Condoleezza Rice told an audience in Cairo last year that America is "now taking a different course ... supporting the democratic aspirations of all people."
To Albright, Korbel was, above all, a father. "I was in awe of him," she said in a recent interview.
To Rice, Korbel was a dazzling mentor, the person she cites as having inspired her to become a diplomat.
But what they both acquired from Korbel was an intellectual curiosity about the world and a definitive view about America — that it is, in fact, the "indispensable nation."
Korbel did not oppose the use of force. He was a strong proponent of U.S. intervention in communist Indochina. Although many of his allies on the left had quickly turned against the Vietnam War, Korbel became a reluctant opponent only in 1968. By that time, it was clear to him that a communist-ruled Vietnam would not lead to the installation of similar regimes throughout Southeast Asia.
He was a solid democrat — an admirer of Roosevelt, Truman and Kennedy.
But the subject that informed his worldview above all else came from his own experiences with the tyranny of totalitarianism, whether in the form of Nazism or Stalinism.
Korbel died in 1977, more than a decade before the peaceful liberation of his birth country from the yoke of communism. We do know he lamented America's failure to come to the aid of Czechoslovakia when Soviet tanks charged into Prague in 1968. We also know that he was a staunch believer in the idea that freedom wasn't a concept limited to the West.
What we don't know is where he would stand today and what he would make of the Bush administration's ambitious plan to export democracy to the Middle East — and which of his two best-known proteges' vastly disparate philosophies most accurately reflect his own.
Josef Korbel may be one of the most influential Americans you've never heard of. He died in 1977, but his legacy lives on in his two most famous students: his daughter, Madeleine Albright, and his star pupil at the University of Denver, Condoleezza Rice.
Korbel was an up-and-coming Czech diplomat in 1948 when the communists staged a coup in his country. He fled Europe and ended up at the University of Denver, where he went on to found the school's Graduate School of International Studies.
Albright, Rice on Korbel
Both women say Korbel inspired them to pursue public service, and echoes of his abiding belief in the merits of American-style freedom are clear in their public statements.
The current and former secretaries of state talk to Guy Raz about Korbel's influence as a mentor and, in the case of Albright, as a father.
Rice says that one thing she thinks she shares with Albright is "the belief that democratic values are at the heart of peace and stability in the world."
But Albright, the first woman to serve as secretary of state, recalls what Rice said to her when Albright contacted her in 1987.
"Madeleine, I don't know how to tell you this," Rice told Albright, "but I'm a Republican." (Albright served in the administration of President Bill Clinton, a Democrat.)
Albright says she thinks her father would be upset by developments in U.S. foreign policy.
"It's ruined America's reputation," Albright says. "He cared so deeply about America and felt so strongly about what an important source of authority it was."
But Rice has a different interpretation of Korbel's philosophy.
"When we're faced with questions about why you are willing to risk so much on behalf of people in the Middle East, Iraqis or Afghans, it's hard for me to believe that he would have wanted them abandoned to tyranny," she says.
In today's politically polarized environment, polemicists seek out philosophical theories to explain and justify the behavior of contemporary leaders and thinkers.
That's one reason for the recent obsession with dead academics like Leo Strauss, a political philosopher who happened to educate — among others — president of the World Bank and former Bush official Paul Wolfowitz, writer Robert Kagan, academic Allan Bloom and journalist William Kristol.
As a result, Strauss has been dubbed the "father" of the so-called neo-conservative movement.
His students are, most certainly, influential today. But man for man (or rather, woman for woman), the less-well-known academic Josef Korbel has arguably had a more enduring and practical impact on the history of American policy.
He was a refugee from his native Czechoslovakia twice: first, as a young diplomat working for the government-in-exile in London while his beloved country was occupied by the Nazis, and then again after 1948 when Czechoslovakia became a Soviet satellite.
He landed in Colorado, where the University of Denver offered him a teaching post. Eventually, Korbel founded the school's Graduate School of International Studies, and by the time he died in 1977, he left behind a legacy that spawned two generations of top diplomats and leaders.
Most prominent among his proteges are two women: his daughter, Madeleine Albright, and a music major from Birmingham, Ala., who stumbled upon one of his lectures in 1973, Condoleezza Rice.
Korbel was a man who believed in America's enduring mission. He was a fierce anti-communist, an enemy of tyranny, and, like Lionel Trilling, Arthur Schlesinger and Eleanor Roosevelt, a liberal Cold War hawk.
On audio recordings of Korbel from the University of Denver, the distinctive themes that pervade the views of Madeleine Albright and Condoleezza Rice are present.
"Freedom knows no national barriers," Korbel says in one speech. "It scatters and deepens in all directions. An understanding of this changing face of freedom unveils the secret to progress and to peace."
It's a line that either Albright or Rice could have delivered. And, in their own distinctive way, both women have clearly channeled Korbel.
His daughter, Madeleine Albright, used to call the United States "the indispensable nation." It's a phrase that Josef Korbel could have easily coined.
Condoleezza Rice told an audience in Cairo last year that America is "now taking a different course ... supporting the democratic aspirations of all people."
To Albright, Korbel was, above all, a father. "I was in awe of him," she said in a recent interview.
To Rice, Korbel was a dazzling mentor, the person she cites as having inspired her to become a diplomat.
But what they both acquired from Korbel was an intellectual curiosity about the world and a definitive view about America — that it is, in fact, the "indispensable nation."
Korbel did not oppose the use of force. He was a strong proponent of U.S. intervention in communist Indochina. Although many of his allies on the left had quickly turned against the Vietnam War, Korbel became a reluctant opponent only in 1968. By that time, it was clear to him that a communist-ruled Vietnam would not lead to the installation of similar regimes throughout Southeast Asia.
He was a solid democrat — an admirer of Roosevelt, Truman and Kennedy.
But the subject that informed his worldview above all else came from his own experiences with the tyranny of totalitarianism, whether in the form of Nazism or Stalinism.
Korbel died in 1977, more than a decade before the peaceful liberation of his birth country from the yoke of communism. We do know he lamented America's failure to come to the aid of Czechoslovakia when Soviet tanks charged into Prague in 1968. We also know that he was a staunch believer in the idea that freedom wasn't a concept limited to the West.
What we don't know is where he would stand today and what he would make of the Bush administration's ambitious plan to export democracy to the Middle East — and which of his two best-known proteges' vastly disparate philosophies most accurately reflect his own.
Uninformed
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Rice began to learn French, music, figure skating and ballet at the age of three.[10] At the age of fifteen, she began piano classes with the goal of becoming a concert pianist.[11] While Rice ultimately did not become a professional pianist, she still practices often and plays with a chamber music group. She accompanied cellist Yo-Yo Ma playing Brahms's Violin Sonata in D Minor at Constitution Hall in April 2002 for the National Medal of Arts Awards.[12]
High school and university education
In 1967, the family moved to Denver, Colorado. She attended St. Mary's Academy, an all-girls Catholic high school in Cherry Hills Village, Colorado, graduating at the age of 16 in 1971. After studying piano at the Aspen Music Festival and School, Rice enrolled at the University of Denver, where her father was then serving as an assistant dean.
Rice's initial college major was piano, but after realizing she did not have the talent to play professionally, she began to consider an alternative major.[11][13] She attended an international politics course taught by Josef Korbel, which sparked her interest in the Soviet Union and international relations. Rice later described Korbel (who was the father of Madeleine Albright, a future U.S. Secretary of State), as a central figure in her life.[14]
In 1974, at age 19, Rice was inducted into the honor society Phi Beta Kappa, and was awarded a B.A., cum laude, in political science by the University of Denver. While at the University of Denver she was a member of Alpha Chi Omega, Gamma Delta chapter.[15] She obtained a master's degree in political science from the University of Notre Dame in 1975. She first worked in the State Department in 1977, during the Carter administration, as an intern in the Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs. She would also study Russian at Moscow State University in the summer of 1979, and intern with the RAND Corporation in Santa Monica, California.[16] In 1981, at the age of 26, she received her Ph.D. in political science from the Josef Korbel School of International Studies at the University of Denver. Her dissertation centered on military policy and politics in what was then the communist state of Czechoslovakia.[17]
From 1980-1981, she was a fellow at Stanford University's Arms Control and Disarmament Program, having won a Ford Foundation Duel Expertise Fellowship in Soviet Studies and International Security.[16] Her fellowship at Stanford began her academic affiliation with the University and time in Northern California.
High school and university education
In 1967, the family moved to Denver, Colorado. She attended St. Mary's Academy, an all-girls Catholic high school in Cherry Hills Village, Colorado, graduating at the age of 16 in 1971. After studying piano at the Aspen Music Festival and School, Rice enrolled at the University of Denver, where her father was then serving as an assistant dean.
Rice's initial college major was piano, but after realizing she did not have the talent to play professionally, she began to consider an alternative major.[11][13] She attended an international politics course taught by Josef Korbel, which sparked her interest in the Soviet Union and international relations. Rice later described Korbel (who was the father of Madeleine Albright, a future U.S. Secretary of State), as a central figure in her life.[14]
In 1974, at age 19, Rice was inducted into the honor society Phi Beta Kappa, and was awarded a B.A., cum laude, in political science by the University of Denver. While at the University of Denver she was a member of Alpha Chi Omega, Gamma Delta chapter.[15] She obtained a master's degree in political science from the University of Notre Dame in 1975. She first worked in the State Department in 1977, during the Carter administration, as an intern in the Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs. She would also study Russian at Moscow State University in the summer of 1979, and intern with the RAND Corporation in Santa Monica, California.[16] In 1981, at the age of 26, she received her Ph.D. in political science from the Josef Korbel School of International Studies at the University of Denver. Her dissertation centered on military policy and politics in what was then the communist state of Czechoslovakia.[17]
From 1980-1981, she was a fellow at Stanford University's Arms Control and Disarmament Program, having won a Ford Foundation Duel Expertise Fellowship in Soviet Studies and International Security.[16] Her fellowship at Stanford began her academic affiliation with the University and time in Northern California.
pasotex
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I fail to see how any of this makes her qualified to be the President of The University of Texas at Austin. She might be good at it, but it is a risk.
Powers is good at it and was the Dean of The University of Texas School of Law for several years before being appointed.
Powers' academic background is far more impressive than is Rice's. I also think the odds would be high that Rice would be a divisive and polarizing figure on and off campus. This is not what you want a President to be (well you might but I don't).
Powers is good at it and was the Dean of The University of Texas School of Law for several years before being appointed.
Powers' academic background is far more impressive than is Rice's. I also think the odds would be high that Rice would be a divisive and polarizing figure on and off campus. This is not what you want a President to be (well you might but I don't).
I don't see her as being divisive or polarizing; she is a very good bureaucratic gamesman and can avoid traps in academic politics, which are vicious to an extreme that people who have never been involved in them find hard to believe. Kissinger once said of the politics of Harvard that the tactics were so brutal because the stakes were so low.
She trained to be a cold war bureaucrat, not a serious academic. She would fit in nicely with the government, regents and rich old white guys who want to run everything in Austin.
She trained to be a cold war bureaucrat, not a serious academic. She would fit in nicely with the government, regents and rich old white guys who want to run everything in Austin.
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