Coach Hoiberg and ISU

[caryhorn]

The guy is a great coach. He's calm and cool on the sideline. He designs great strategies on both ends of the court. He's had one open heart surgery that curtailed a budding NBA career, and he faces another scheduled for this summer. After my beloved horns, Hoiberg and the cyclones are the ones I'm following and rooting for in the NCAA.

Go HORNS!!! And then another B12 team, the Cyclones, should the Horns falter.

 

[22Horn]

Amen....

 

[SAMMCHornfan]

Well I enjoy watching them play too, but they can't continue to play from behind, and hopefully not choke early.

 

[Vol Horn 4 Life]

It appears someone other than Kansas can win the Big XII and expecting a conference championship isn't an unrealistic goal.

Oh wait, you mean ISU did it two years in a row? But they aren't a basketball school!!!! Heck, they aren't any sport school, it's ISU!

 

[moondog_LFZ]

Actually, if anything, they are a basketball school.

 

[caryhorn]

Actually, if anything, they are a basketball school

The operative phrase from the above is "if anything." They have had modest success over the years with Basketball. But they are not a basketball school. Not like say, Kansas, Duke, Georgetown, UConn, Kentucky, Gonzaga, Wichita State, Villanova, etc etc.

They have been good, exceeding expectations, since Hoiberg became head coach. It goes to show you that head coaches, in certain sports, e.g., basketball and football, make a giant difference. A good one can turn a program around quickly.

 

[Htown77]

It appears someone other than Kansas can win the Big XII and expecting a conference championship isn't an unrealistic goal.

Does it? When this discussion has been had, we were talking about regular season titles which Kansas did win, again, this year. Hoiberg has not won any regular season titles.

I do not think anyone was referring to the tournament as Missouri won the tournament three years ago.

 

[Vol Horn 4 Life]

I'd take either championship. Maybe next year.

 

[Htown77]

Whether or not Barnes needs to be replaced, I do not want Hoiberg. He has only made the Sweet 16 once and never advanced beyond that.

 

[Vol Horn 4 Life]

Someone tell me how strong the Big XII is this year?!? ISU.....gone. Baylor.....gone.

 

[mb227]

Someone tell me how strong the Big XII is this year?!? ISU.....gone. Baylor.....gone.

And Baylor seems to have been plagued with poor coaching on some late game fundamentals...is there a virus working its way up and down I35? Seems like late-game management just sucks along the entire route...

 

[TXLonghorndad]

The guy is a great coach. He's calm and cool on the sideline. He designs great strategies on both ends of the court. He's had one open heart surgery that curtailed a budding NBA career, and he faces another scheduled for this summer. After my beloved horns, Hoiberg and the cyclones are the ones I'm following and rooting for in the NCAA.

Go HORNS!!! And then another B12 team, the Cyclones, should the Horns falter.

I think we learned today that he is not a great coach but a lucky coach whose luck ran out today.

 

[SAMMCHornfan]

I am sure it was spine the jinx fault, but I am sure he feels Hoiberg is a much greater coach than Barnes.

 

[caryhorn]

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I think we learned today that he is not a great coach but a lucky coach whose luck ran out today.

Hoiberg's record in the NCAA since he's been Coach at Iowa State:
2015 First RoundFirst Round 3 Iowa State Iowa State 59 14 Alabama-Birmingham Alabama-Birmingham 60
2014 First RoundFirst Round 3 Iowa State Iowa State 93 14 North Carolina Central North Carolina Central 75
2014 Second RoundSecond Round 3 Iowa State Iowa State 85 6 North Carolina North Carolina 83
2014 Sweet 16Sweet 16 3 Iowa State Iowa State 76 7 Connecticut Connecticut 81
2013 First RoundFirst Round 10 Iowa State Iowa State 76 7 Notre Dame Notre Dame 58
2013 Second RoundSecond Round 10 Iowa State Iowa State 75 2 Ohio State Ohio State 78
2012 Second RoundSecond Round 8 Iowa State Iowa State 71 1 Kentucky Kentucky 87
2012 First RoundFirst Round 8 Iowa State Iowa State 77 9 Connecticut Connecticut 64

This is the first year he's been bumped out in the first round. And this year was a shocking loss, very disappointing and uncharacteristic. His first loss to a team seeded lower than ISU other than last year's loss to eventual Champ UConn. He's gotten at least to the second round each year other than this one.

I see how one could say he's a good coach, not a great one. But I think he's developed talent, finding kids who can fill it up and play to their talents. They are fundamentally sound year after year. I don't think he's been able to get top ten recruits to come to ISU, so he's had to develop what he's got. The population of Iowa is less than that of Tarrant County (Fort Worth and surrounding suburbs) so there aren't many kids in the recruiting pool with a home state connection. I think he'd recruit lights out in Texas, population over 20 million.

After the loss yesterday, I would still take him here in a flash. I do believe he'd be a significant upgrade. That being said, he'll never leave his hometown of Ames.

 

[Htown77]

I am not sure he is an upgrade. He did not have a winning record against Barnes until beating him three times this season and he would not have had that without the texas meltdown in the tournament. Despite having big teams, he has only managed to make the sweet 16 that one time. Larry Eustache managed to win a Big 12 regular season title, tournament title and took Iowa State to the elite 8 so Holberg's success is not unprecedented in the modern era.

He has a great contract and that has fantastic staggered pay raises. We would have to pay him far more than we paid Barnes and I am not uncertain he would be an upgrade. Maybe he would be slightly better at best if better.

On the overall, Barnes has been a great coach and Texas and Hoiberg has been great at Iowa State. We are, however, looking for an upgrade.

 

[txlandagent]

Hoiberg is not an upgrade.