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I believe the 24 billion is from cuts to occur during the 2 month period that the so-called sequestration is delayed for, roughly to account for the savings from the sequesteration calculated over 2 months.

What they can cut for the amount is very unclear, but it seems that these folks are pretty confident that they know of at least that much of waste that they can identify quickly in a few hours. Funny, isn't it?

Something like that. The reporting by the news guys has been all over the place on this.

Anyway, I don't think the Republicans will just agree to 24 billion and be done with it.
 
The LEAST productive Congress in HISTORY. Hey Boehner, great job there tanman!
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I hope Obama just mans up, quit dealing with Boehner and his clown bunch, and go off the cliff. Tomorrow morning, taxes will be back to where they were under Clinton - where we saw the most prosperous time in a long time. Invoke the 14th during the debt ceiling and wait until 2014, when most of the repub clowns will be sent packing.
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Roger, is there any chance at all that you could enter into a discussion of issues without resorting to childish name-calling? "Republicans" and "clowns" are not necessarily synonymous.

Also, it does not invite serious interchanges when your only parting response is to state that someone's IQ has not reached room temperature.

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not that it really matters with the Faux News echo chamber around here, but Roger was merely reacting to an insult
 
paso, jayakris did not insult roger. Roger started the name calling with words like tanman and clown without adding any thought provoking analysis. But I guess you knew that as the "faux news" comment that you made I assume was not intended to assuage the rhetoric.
 
Raise taxes, delay spending cuts. When our government is in a hole, they just keep digging.
 
The deal does nothing to reduce the deficit or put in a long term strategy to reduce spending, and you think it is a win for the American people?
 
I repeat, regardless of who is to blame, the President, Congress and Senate have done nothing to reduce the deficit or cut spending.

Do I want it totally eliminated today? Yes, but that is not reasonable. However, I do expect that they will do something significant to reduce the deficit and stop weakening the dollar. And, great job continuing the "it is not Obama's fault" mantra. Good lord, will he ever be responsible for anything?
 
I have no illusion that we are going to get a balanced budget out of this process. What I expect is adults to sit down and look at the gap between revenue and expenditures and come up with a reasonable solution to lessen the gap. If that means so tax increases, so be it. But to act like there isn't a lot of spending that could be cut just because previous presidents also spent is a disservice to the process. Why not a 5% across the board cut from each agency? It wouldn't balance the budget, but it would be meaningful progress.
 
In 2011, $900 billion in cuts ove ten years were approved. This deal raises $600 billion in revenue over ten years.

How much in additional cuts will get extorted in February over the debt ceiling?
 
Do I think we need cuts in February over the debt ceiling?

Nope

Do I think we need to long term address Medicare and Defense spending?

Yep

Does Social Security need some tweaking?

Yep

I think dramatically cutting spending now is stupid and reflects a lack of understanding of both the components of the deficit (as opposed to the debt) and the way to recover.
 
I agree that we shouldn't need an artificial point to stop and address our spending and entitlement issues. But, our politicians are so hesitant to touch the spending issues it makes these pathetic charades almost necessary in my mind. I have no clue what it will take for politicians to look at SS/Medicare.
 
I haven't been paying as much attention as I usually do.
Are they any actual spendng cuts in the lege the Senate passed?

How silly is it to say Pubs want the entire deficit wiped out but how about NOT adding to it?
How about using the tax hikes to erase parts of it?
How about not using one cent of the tax hile for more spending?
 
The real long term problem in Medicare.

The short term budget problem is that not enough people have jobs and too many are receiving benefits (because they are unemployed). We have a huge employment problem which dwarfs the deficit (and fixing it fixes 2/3rds of the deficit).

The worst way to address this is with austerity measures (see 1937).
 
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