Catholics: the RIck Pitino thing

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BigWill

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first off, yeah, I will stipulate that we are all human and all sinners, bla bla bla. I get that.

Now. From what I read, Pitino is uber-Catholic. Like has a priest handy all the time, etc. If in fact he did provide for an abortion, where does that leave him? (who knows if he did...the woman seems a little crazy to me).

Can he ask forgiveness through confession? Perhaps he already has? Help a pagan out.
 
Will, I'm not Catholic, but those questions aren't exactly difficult ones. Your prejudice against Catholicism is quite obvious and these disingenuous questions just make that all the more obvious.

One can be absolved of any sin through confession and repentence.
 
As far as I know. As long as you aren't excommunicated.. (leave the Catholic faith and become a protestant) there is pretty much nothing that's unforgivable. Suicide would be another one that I've heard can't be forgiven because you have no opportunity to confess the sins to your priest.

Little sins (venial) get forgiven every time you partake of communion. Big sins (mortal) are forgiven if you confess to a priest and do penance (recompense) for them. There is a lot of debate of what qualifies as mortal sin, but most agree that a deliberate breaking of the 10 commandments would qualify.

In this instance, I think 90% plus of Catholics would agree that paying for an abortion would constitute a mortal sin. My guess is that Pitino was absolved by his priest but probably had to do a LOT more than the typical 2 hail mary's and 2 our father's as his penance.

Former Catholic here.... Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
 
There is certainly a distinction between someone who runs an abortion clinic and openly disagrees with the Church on abortion and this circumstance of an alleged ONE-time offense.

As far as your money comment goes. I cannot disagree. Money does seem to overcome a multitude of sins in the RCC. Sounds harsh, but that has been my repeated experience with family and friends in other circumstances.
 
Unless they have changed, they tell members who have had an abortion they are going to go to hell, and they can still go to mass, but cannot go to communion anymore. They aren't exactly forgiving about it.
I don't know about Rick Pitino's case, or even if the money he was shaken down for was actually for an abortion, since she kept demanding money from him.
 
Is there a stipulation on how many times you can be forgiven? Or even more interestingly, can you be forgiven for the same sin more than once?
 
as Long as he didn't get a divorce he can still take communion. And yes, the ability to provide monetary renumeration have proved to allow for considerable flexibility in codtrine over the years.

I do however think it's cool that you can have your marriage annulled even after have a bunch of kids so you can take communion again.

Now I am jaded because a dear Aunt of my Wife's spend many years in the pews being unable to take communion because after having several children she did not believe that she could ethically have her marriage anulled, with the writing of a check. She was truly a strong woman and a Catholic of a devotion level far higher than most.
 
Summer, divorced Catholic here.....

You don't have to get an annulment to take communion. The only reason to seek an annulment is if you intend to remarry. I honestly don't think I had a valid marriage. If I decided to remarry, I don't believe getting an annulment in my case would be a problem.

Also, having or facilitating an abortion is automatic excommunication. As with any sin (except speaking against the Holy Spirit), it is forgivable with contrition, confession, and penance. The contrition must be sincere for forgiveness to occur.
 
Catholics believe that Our Lord died for our sins and that His sacrifice is more powerful than any sin. Who sins, repents, and confesses is forgiven. One can be forgiven again for the same sin as long as he truly repents and confesses. Much the same way a parent will forgive a child for misbehaving around the house even if the issue has been raised before. If the concept does not appeal, one is free not to be Catholic. None of us Catholics, though, is perfect. We all need forgiveness.
 
as far as i can tell, most people believe he paid for an abortion.
 
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