Carrier @ 8pm Tonight on KLRU

I'm biased because my wife worked on this, but it's really good. The music's a little too "big rock anthem/recruiting commercial" at times, but the stories are great, and the footage is ******* badass.
 
Well, I've never been on one of these boats so I can't say for sure how accurate it is. I do know that there's a lot of stuff in there that the Navy brass was kind of kicking themselves for allowing through.

Whatever agreement they signed only allowed them cut stuff if it compromised national security. There's some ****** up sexual stuff that happens, there's a lot of anti-war/what the **** are we doing out here wasting all this money sentiment, etc...

Still, a lot of the criticism is saying the show comes off like a recruitment video, but I think that's inevitable when you have such badass footage of fighter-jets; it's gonna look cool.
 
Was Allen the one busted for drinking on the ship?

I loved the first two hours. I didn't think it was a recruiting video at all. The only people glamorized were the pilots and they don't need recruiting.

Great show.
 
Seems pretty real. The comments and attitudes of most of the ABs are pretty typical of most 19 and 20-year olds I think.

Anyone know what that opening song is? Can't place it.
 
That's a pretty bad recruiting video if that's what they're thinking. They pretty much make it clear that you're not going to be flying jets or dropping bombs...but rather making eggs and cleaning urinals.

I thought the episodes have been really good so far. Not sure if these are spoilers or not, or if the show even counts as a spoiler-worthy but..

The racist kid was a class act eh? Really funny to me that he's a "racist" who hangs out with black guys on the boat. To me, that was just his ticket out and he wanted to punch it.

The sexual assault thing -- wow -- that's crazy that they happened upon that guy. Great luck for the producers. He's giving a speech about not doing exactly what he just does...hard to watch the guy's life fall apart after they drummed up so much.

Overall -- we like it, interesting to see the real behind-the-scenes stuff that goes on. All I'm used to is the big pretty stuff, not the guys who are doing the laundry.
 
Allen was the self-proclaimed racist who received an other-than-honorable discharge. He thought he had made a mistake by joining the Navy so he misbehaved badly enough to get sent home. He mentioned that he is from a small town in OK.

I missed the first part of the story about the rape/non-rape. What actually happened there? I saw that she denied it was rape, but her reasoning seemed iffy to me.
 
Hey Orange, I really dig that picture as your sig. Its got one dog going one way, the other dog, the other way. And its not religious. Excellent.
 
Anyone know when this was filmed? I was actually in Hong Kong last August 2007 supporting the Nimitz Strike Group. I didn't step foot on Nimitz as we don't support carriers but here are a few pictures of the ship from a Liberty Boat (they don't dock, they anchor out and have to take boat taxis to the pier).

CVN 68 in Hong Kong

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I've only watched a couple of hours, but I don't know how people can serve like that. I sure am glad they do, though. The pregnant girl who got back together with her ex while her boyfriend was on deployment has a date with karma. She was unaffected when she dumped her baby daddy and he was devastated.
 
The night landings on the 30 foot pitching deck were the most riveting 15 minutes of TV I've seen in awhile.
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I enjoyed how the last guy to land, the Commander, nailed it, while everyone on the ship watched and commented.
 
I know this board is appreciative of the things the military does but if you have friends or family who aren't get them to watch this. It's particularly heartbreaking to see the parents come home from deployments and then they have to spend time getting to know their kids all over again. If you saw last night, you watched one of the pilots approach his wife and young son and the little boy was hesitant to go to his father. That's really rough on a family. The military is such a hard job and, in too many ways, thankless.

My wife has not been deployed overseas yet. Coming up this summer, she'll do some 30-60 day TDY tours and it will be really weird not having her around for weeks on end. I can't imagine a 6 month cruise or 12 month deployment.
 
I've watched this show plenty and one fact is undeniable. It's about nothing more than kids who have no frickin' clue. You can call it "Carrier" or you can call it "Saved By The Bell" but in the end there's not that much difference here. Most of what you see is kids whining about their superior officers and NCO"s instead of whining about their teachers and principals.

Why do I want to watch a documentary about a shipload of whiny kids? I'm sure the tone of the show would immediately change if the ship got hit by some suicide attack but that's not what's happening here. This is a show about nothing more than a whole bunch of brats confined in close quarters (plus the small few real adults who are put in charge of controlling them).

When I watch on-the-ground documentaries from Iraq and Afghanistan I see the realities of accepting deadly combat on a daily basis regardless of what anyone may think about our President. When I watch "Carrier" I see spoiled children in the very back line of the rear guard who are the absolute last ones at risk.

I know they're serving our country but am I supposed to take some special interest in the petty internal squabblings of a few thousand folks on a lazy cruise round the globe? Maybe PBS should do a documentary on the riveting lives of Army supply clerks who never leave Ft. Hood, Texas. It would be every bit as interesting.
 
Those brats are sacrificing a lot for our country.

With any job, it becomes a grind, but imagine in the middle of nowhere with no family support, it is tough.

They can whine all they want.
 
I think the general point that Brubricker is making is the overwhelming majority of the jobs on that boat involve mind-numbingly dull, repetitious tasks. I guess I'd get a Little whiny in that environment as well.
 
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