Calipari knows how to make an exit

That would be really funny if it WAS Rose, after all of his denials and his insistence that the PA announcers in the NBA say "from Chicago" instead of "from the University of Memphis."

Mock the one-and-done college players all you want, but Kevin Durant truly loves UT from what I've seen. Other guys... not so much.
 
Shocking!
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Just a hunch, but helping a kid cheat on SAT's is akin to a parking violation compared to what Memphis has committed. And I suspect they'd do it all over again, given that they went to the Final Four.

The NCAA is an impotent **** bag that exerts its influence on relatively minor issues, while Reggie Bush and OJ Mayo live high on the hog and Big Red takes care of who knows how many Sooner football players. It's enough to make you cynical about college sports.
 
Wow. So he had a final four taken away when he left Massachusetts. Now same thing could happen at Memphis.

I just can't believe that Kentucky will sign off on a guy like this. Sure he will bring some recruits and you will win. But even if you have an amazing season there will be high risk that it occurred due to cheating and your wins could be stripped away later.
 
Indeed. IMO, UK didn't look Calipari's way the last time the job came open because he hadn't won enough to overlook anything hazy in his past. Now he's been to a FF and won about 70 more games, and about 30 more than Gillispie won in his two years.
 
Calipari and UK are a marriage made in hoops heaven...but I'd love to be the lawyer of choice when divorce time rolls around, as it inevitably will.
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jumo, but I have always thought of Ky. hoops as sleazy. That goes back to the fifties at least. I never was a fan of the "baron", who was a noted racist.
 
Racism was practically a religion in the south in the fifties and early sixties...Rupp didn't have a monopoly on it.
 
I've been warned and maybe even suspended for a few days due to posts about calipari and his cheating. While I never had any links to proof, I have heard numerous stories first hand from friends in college coaching circles about this guy's recruiting tactics. It's not a coincidence that when Josh Pastner was run out of Arizona that Calipari picked him up at Memphis.
 
The idea that Josh Pastner was run out of Arizona is silliness. That's spin from the Arizona side of things.

As far as Calipari and his willingness to bend every rule beyond recognition...well, we can agree on that completely.
 
the "idea" that he was run out may not be totally accurate, but the fact that allegations surfaced at Zona while Pastner was there and that allegations have surfaced at Memphis while he was there are not a coincidence. There is a reason that pastner got a job at memphis with calipari and there is a reason that he got the head job when calipari left.
 
SLX,

You must have misunderstood my post, or I just may have not been clear enough.

I know why pastner was brought on at Zona. I know exactly why he was a "walkon". I know as much if not more than you on the entire deal and why he was given an assistant job. It's the same reason he was given an assistant job at Memphis.

I'm saying that "shady" people hang with other "shady" people. THat's why pastner was on staff at zona and why he was picked up by memphis. When you recruit in a "questionable" manner as a head coach, you have to have assistants that do the same thing or that at least understand the "game" and by "game" i don't mean basketball....
 
The only thing I misunderstood was, "It's not a coincidence that when Josh Pastner was run out of Arizona...."

He wasn't run out of Arizona for shady practices. He was BROUGHT to Arizona for shady purposes. He left --- and rightfully so --- because the program was falling apart and Olson had lost his ever lovin' mind, not because he was run out of Arizona because they suddenly were made aware of how he recruited.

You tell me. Did I misunderstand? Or did you do a crappy job of stating your position?

Oh, and yeah. Let's have some kind of battle over who knows more than whom about the AAU world and how it affects college basketball recruiting. That makes all kinds of sense.
 
SLX,

Calm down dude. Yes I did a "crappy" job of stating my point. LOL. I admit, I am not a savy veteran of the message board communication system.

My point was that Pastner was involved with allegations at Zona. He left (for whatever reason, doesn't matter). He gets picked up at Memphis. Now memphis has allegations about a recruit whom Pastner was largely instrumental in landing (according to most of my sources). Now, I'm not saying that he's solely to blame, but he's a big part of it as is both head coaches who hired a guy like pastner to be on their staffs. 99.9% of the time, if an assistant coach is cheating/dirty recruiting, the head coach is aware of it.

And, I was not implying we should have a battle. LOL. I, as much as anyone, can't stand the AAU stuff. It's one of the reasons I love Rick Barnes (he won't hire these slime balls just to land a recruit ala Drew, Gillespie, Calipari, Self etc). It's also why I love Bo Ryan. He won't even talk to a kid's AAU coach. If he can't recruit a kid though the high school coach, then they don't recruit him. That's the way it should be. If every coach was like that, we wouldn't have this AAU cancer... Most college coaches view AAU as a necessary evil to land the top recruits but I guarantee most of them would rather destroy the entire system. If all states would let kids play on their high school teams year round, it would also help get rid of the AAU crap

Sorry if I wound you up. Take no offense. I have enjoyed your insight over the years. This is a topic that gets me very irritated because it affects those of us at the high school level as well. It's a sick underworld full of shady, corrupt, slimeballs.
 
I thought it was a great career move by Pastner to leave when he did. If he'd stayed, he would have been looking for a job, and he sure wouldn't have gotten the Memphis HC job.
 
Can we all agree that neither Calipari nor Pastner are likely candidates for J.C.'s Young Man Of The Year award? Can we also agree that both wear prodigious amounts of Teflon clothing? Can we agree that both keep World Wide Wes on speed dial? Now then...let's everybody get in a circle and sing "Kumbayah"...
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LMAO, That's the funniest thing about this whole thing SLX...

I was trying to "beat around the bush" when it comes to arizona because I don't have any "proof" and have been warned in the past because I have made statements or alluded to the arizona program's dirty tactics.

I WAS IN NO WAY IMPLYING ZONA IS CLEAN!!!!

I know exactly why Barnes won't play arizona anymore like we used to. I know (2nd hand from a buddy who was there) exactly what was said by Barnes to Lute before a game a few years back after the Ndi Ebi (sp?)recruiting ordeal. I puke when I think of Zona.

Cheaters stick together. That was my point. Would Barnes ever hire Pastner? I know the answer to that and I am sure you do to. It's no coincidence that Pastner has worked for 2 programs now that are both under suspicion. That was my point. That zona and memphis are both dirty. AND, they aren't dirty because of Pastner. They were dirty when he got there. He is just a funny link in the whole "game".

I apologize if I "mislead" you with my bad posting. I'll leave it at that. And, I apologize to the OP for highjacking this thread.
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Actually, Arizona ended the series. Not Barnes. You act like cleanliness is some kind of prerequisite for Barnes before he'll put a program on the schedule, when you can look at his scheduling decisions and see that it's far less important than the perceived prestige of the program. At the time Olson ended the Texas series, Barnes was willing to continue it indefinitely, but Olson started it because of his friendship with Penders, and didn't care for the way Barnes continued to recruit players even after they had committed to Arizona --- which was an ironic thing for "Midnight Lute" to complain about, of all people --- so he ended it.

Then a few years later he started a home and home with Houston, because Penders was there.

I'll also say this about Pastner. While I don't approve of some of the ways he conducts his business, he is universally acknowledged as one of the hardest workers out there, never taking a day off, and he's got a very engaging personality, so it's not all smoke and mirrors, or who his father is.
 
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