Buchanan out at MSNBC
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BrothaHorn
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How he lasted as long as he did is a mystery.
Buchanan lasted as long as he did because of white privilege that Pat so ruefully laments having gone the way of the hoola hoop. There is little that is statistically or historically accurate about his latest diatribe against anybody not white. To wit:
From the chapter, “The Death Of Christian America”:
Obama’s White House thus enlisted in the long and successful campaign to expel Christianity from the public square, diminish its presence in our public life, and reduce its role to that of just another religion.
From the chapter, “The End Of White America”:
The white population will begin to shrink and, should present birth rates persist, slowly disappear. Hispanics already comprise 42 percent of New Mexico’s population, 37 percent of California’s, 38 percent of Texas’s, and over half the population of Arizona under the age of twenty. ……. Mexico is moving north. Ethnically, linguistically, and culturally, the verdict of 1848 is being overturned. Will this Mexican nation within a nation advance the goals of the Constitution—to “insure domestic tranquility” and “make us a more perfect union”? Or has our passivity in the face of this invasion imperiled our union?
On the group UNITY: Journalists of Color, Inc. pushing for more diversity in journalism:
Half a century after Martin Luther King envisioned a day when his children would be judged ‘not by the color of their skin, but the content of their character,’ journalists of color are demanding the hiring and promotion of journalists based on the color of their skin. Jim Crow is back. Only the color of the beneficiaries and the color of the victims have been reversed.
Also from the chapter, “The End Of White America”:
Those who believe the rise to power of an Obama rainbow coalition of peoples of color means the whites who helped to engineer it will steer it are deluding themselves. The whites may discover what it is like to ride in the back of the bus.
From the chapter, “Equality or Freedom?”:
Not until the 1960s did courts begin to use the Fourteenth Amendment to impose a concept of equality that the authors of the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, The Federalist Papers, and the Gettysburg Address never believed in. Before the 1960s, equality meant every citizen enjoyed the same constitutional rights and the equal protection of existing laws. Nothing in the Constitution or federal law mandated social, racial, or gender equality.
From the chapter “The Diversity Cult”:
Americans who seek stricter immigration control have been charged with many social sins: racism, xenophobia, nativism. Yet none has sought to expel any fellow American based on color or creed. We have only sought to preserve the country we grew up in. Do not people everywhere do that, without being reviled? What motivates people who insist that America’s doors be held open wide until the European majority has disappeared?
What is their grudge against the old America that eats at their heart?
On crime:
If [conservative political commentator Heather] Mac Donald’s statistics are accurate, 49 of every 50 muggings and murders in New York are the work of minorities. That might explain why black folks have trouble getting a cab. Every New York cabby must know the odds, should he pick up a man of color at night.
From the chapter “‘The White Party’”:
What the above points to is a strategy from which Republicans will recoil, a strategy to increase the GOP share of the white Christian vote and increase the turnout of that vote by specific appeals to social, cultural, and moral issues, and for equal justice for the emerging white minority. If the GOP is not the party of New Haven firefighter Frank Ricci and Cambridge cop James Crowley, it has no future. And although Howard Dean disparages the Republicans as the “white party,” why should Republicans be ashamed to represent the progeny of the men who founded, built, and defended America since her birth as a nation?
From the chapter “The Last Chance”:
Our intellectual, cultural, and political elites are today engaged in one of the most audacious and ambitious experiments in history. They are trying to transform a Western Christian republic into an egalitarian democracy made up of all the tribes, races, creeds, and cultures of planet Earth. They have dethroned our God, purged our cradle faith from public life, and repudiated the Judeo-Christian moral code by which previous generations sought to live.
From the same chapter:
For the Left to concede that white anger is a legitimate response to racial injustices done to white people would be to concede that the Left is guilty of the very sin of which it accuses the right.
On the segregation era:
Perhaps some of us misremember the past. But the racial, religious, cultural, social, political, and economic divides today seem greater than they seemed even in the segregation cities some of us grew up in.
Back then, black and white lived apart, went to different schools and churches, played on different playgrounds, and went to different restaurants, bars, theaters, and soda fountains. But we shared a country and a culture. We were one nation. We were Americans.
From the chapter, “The Death Of Christian America”:
Obama’s White House thus enlisted in the long and successful campaign to expel Christianity from the public square, diminish its presence in our public life, and reduce its role to that of just another religion.
From the chapter, “The End Of White America”:
The white population will begin to shrink and, should present birth rates persist, slowly disappear. Hispanics already comprise 42 percent of New Mexico’s population, 37 percent of California’s, 38 percent of Texas’s, and over half the population of Arizona under the age of twenty. ……. Mexico is moving north. Ethnically, linguistically, and culturally, the verdict of 1848 is being overturned. Will this Mexican nation within a nation advance the goals of the Constitution—to “insure domestic tranquility” and “make us a more perfect union”? Or has our passivity in the face of this invasion imperiled our union?
On the group UNITY: Journalists of Color, Inc. pushing for more diversity in journalism:
Half a century after Martin Luther King envisioned a day when his children would be judged ‘not by the color of their skin, but the content of their character,’ journalists of color are demanding the hiring and promotion of journalists based on the color of their skin. Jim Crow is back. Only the color of the beneficiaries and the color of the victims have been reversed.
Also from the chapter, “The End Of White America”:
Those who believe the rise to power of an Obama rainbow coalition of peoples of color means the whites who helped to engineer it will steer it are deluding themselves. The whites may discover what it is like to ride in the back of the bus.
From the chapter, “Equality or Freedom?”:
Not until the 1960s did courts begin to use the Fourteenth Amendment to impose a concept of equality that the authors of the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, The Federalist Papers, and the Gettysburg Address never believed in. Before the 1960s, equality meant every citizen enjoyed the same constitutional rights and the equal protection of existing laws. Nothing in the Constitution or federal law mandated social, racial, or gender equality.
From the chapter “The Diversity Cult”:
Americans who seek stricter immigration control have been charged with many social sins: racism, xenophobia, nativism. Yet none has sought to expel any fellow American based on color or creed. We have only sought to preserve the country we grew up in. Do not people everywhere do that, without being reviled? What motivates people who insist that America’s doors be held open wide until the European majority has disappeared?
What is their grudge against the old America that eats at their heart?
On crime:
If [conservative political commentator Heather] Mac Donald’s statistics are accurate, 49 of every 50 muggings and murders in New York are the work of minorities. That might explain why black folks have trouble getting a cab. Every New York cabby must know the odds, should he pick up a man of color at night.
From the chapter “‘The White Party’”:
What the above points to is a strategy from which Republicans will recoil, a strategy to increase the GOP share of the white Christian vote and increase the turnout of that vote by specific appeals to social, cultural, and moral issues, and for equal justice for the emerging white minority. If the GOP is not the party of New Haven firefighter Frank Ricci and Cambridge cop James Crowley, it has no future. And although Howard Dean disparages the Republicans as the “white party,” why should Republicans be ashamed to represent the progeny of the men who founded, built, and defended America since her birth as a nation?
From the chapter “The Last Chance”:
Our intellectual, cultural, and political elites are today engaged in one of the most audacious and ambitious experiments in history. They are trying to transform a Western Christian republic into an egalitarian democracy made up of all the tribes, races, creeds, and cultures of planet Earth. They have dethroned our God, purged our cradle faith from public life, and repudiated the Judeo-Christian moral code by which previous generations sought to live.
From the same chapter:
For the Left to concede that white anger is a legitimate response to racial injustices done to white people would be to concede that the Left is guilty of the very sin of which it accuses the right.
On the segregation era:
Perhaps some of us misremember the past. But the racial, religious, cultural, social, political, and economic divides today seem greater than they seemed even in the segregation cities some of us grew up in.
Back then, black and white lived apart, went to different schools and churches, played on different playgrounds, and went to different restaurants, bars, theaters, and soda fountains. But we shared a country and a culture. We were one nation. We were Americans.
Burnt Orangeman
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The show is called Morning Joe. Joe Scarborough is a former Republican congressman. He is conservative. Yes, they have liberals on the panel also.
The point being he wasn't fired simply because he was the sole conservative voice as is implied.
The point being he wasn't fired simply because he was the sole conservative voice as is implied.
Burnt Orangeman
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Actually Morning Joe only exists because Imus got cancelled for being both a racist AND an *******.
Imus got labeled a racist for saying "nappy headed ho's" and white people can't get away with saying that. If he was black nobody would have said anything. Since he was an ******* and white, MSNBC had no problem cancelling his show.
Imus got labeled a racist for saying "nappy headed ho's" and white people can't get away with saying that. If he was black nobody would have said anything. Since he was an ******* and white, MSNBC had no problem cancelling his show.
hornpharmd
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man, who watches any of that ****.
Yeah, wake me when Fox hires Democratic Reps and real spokespeople (not Alan Colmes weak-types, real ones) and then we'll say they're starting to approach MSNBC. Is MSNBC left slanted? Yep. Is their slant anywhere that of Fox? Nope. Do people feel the need to equate Fox with MSNBC to justify each or one another? Sadly, yes.. It's like we're saying- a murder is ok because the other side is a petty theft. What Fox does to journalism and its feeble minded viewers no where near compares to what MSNBC does, which is also wrong. A slant is not the same thing as say, calling someone a Muslim who pals around with terrorists- and yes, they have said that.
Knoxville-Horn
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McBrett, I can't imagine where your political center is to make those comments.
MSNBC has some of the most hardcore, militant partisans in politics on their network, and they're extremely one-sided in their commentary. Rachel Maddow? Al Sharpton? Lawrence O'Donnell? Seriously? They make no effort to be fair whatsoever.
Is Fox better? Absolutely not. They're just as one-sided and partisan, but neither of these "news" channels are to be taken seriously. They're nothing but mouthpieces for a political party, and one isn't significantly better or worse than the other. One is Manson. One is Dahmer.
MSNBC has some of the most hardcore, militant partisans in politics on their network, and they're extremely one-sided in their commentary. Rachel Maddow? Al Sharpton? Lawrence O'Donnell? Seriously? They make no effort to be fair whatsoever.
Is Fox better? Absolutely not. They're just as one-sided and partisan, but neither of these "news" channels are to be taken seriously. They're nothing but mouthpieces for a political party, and one isn't significantly better or worse than the other. One is Manson. One is Dahmer.
To analyze MSNBC vs. Fox- which makes me vomit to do it- first, you ignore the talking heads who don't do news. That means ignore Hannity, O'Reilly, Maddow, Sharpton etc- all those idiots. That is not news and both sides agree- it is an Op-Ed for those who can't form their own opinions on the news themselves.
The real analysis comes from the news portions of the programming. E.g. Fox and Friends adds snide comments about Obama all morning long- mixed in with news. Morning Joe more or less skews both sides- but probably slightly more the GOP. Then at 9AM EST they switch to pure news until 5PM with Hardball. Whereas Fox is skewing Dems all day long in their news.
Now- here's the meat of the argument. Anyone here can go to YouTube, type in Fox News, and the result is fairly straight forward. No, it is not a liberal bias from those who use the internet- it is a collection of Fox News lying to their viewers be it about Iraq war evidence, Obama attending a madrassa, Obama being a muslim, - that's not a slant, that's called a lie. And they rarely refute their lies or instead they make the lie but add a "?" to make it as if they are posing a question.
To the posts above- who say nothing other than snide comments about this and inject no real information refuting this claim- yeah, very effective refute guys. You have your bias, you like it- and you can keep it.
The real analysis comes from the news portions of the programming. E.g. Fox and Friends adds snide comments about Obama all morning long- mixed in with news. Morning Joe more or less skews both sides- but probably slightly more the GOP. Then at 9AM EST they switch to pure news until 5PM with Hardball. Whereas Fox is skewing Dems all day long in their news.
Now- here's the meat of the argument. Anyone here can go to YouTube, type in Fox News, and the result is fairly straight forward. No, it is not a liberal bias from those who use the internet- it is a collection of Fox News lying to their viewers be it about Iraq war evidence, Obama attending a madrassa, Obama being a muslim, - that's not a slant, that's called a lie. And they rarely refute their lies or instead they make the lie but add a "?" to make it as if they are posing a question.
To the posts above- who say nothing other than snide comments about this and inject no real information refuting this claim- yeah, very effective refute guys. You have your bias, you like it- and you can keep it.
Namewithheld
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Bevo Incognito
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Jeeze ... with all that's out there in terms of real news and analysis, who spends a minute being marketed to by FOX or MNBC?
Obama is a Muslim according to Fox News
Leftwich- there are 50 other examples I could find, but you should do your own search on YouTube where all of their lies are stored.
This is not a slant- it's just flat out lies that aren't retracted. A slant would be, "We don't think he'd be a good President etc." A lie is what you can find clips of all over the internet where they misrepresent facts.
Leftwich- there are 50 other examples I could find, but you should do your own search on YouTube where all of their lies are stored.
This is not a slant- it's just flat out lies that aren't retracted. A slant would be, "We don't think he'd be a good President etc." A lie is what you can find clips of all over the internet where they misrepresent facts.
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