BO admin gave secrets of OBL kill to filmmakers?

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Horn6721

Hook'em
If this is true this is as low as an POTUS can get.
To release secrets to a fill maker so a film can be made in time to be a camapaign tool is veyond words.
from politico
"Just weeks after Pentagon and Central Intelligence Agency officials warned publicly of the dangers posed by leaks about the raid that killed Osama bin Laden, top officials at both agencies and at the White House granted Hollywood filmmakers unusual access to those involved in planning the raid and some of the methods they used to do it, newly released government records show.

At a briefing in July 2011, Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence Mike Vickers told filmmakers Michael Boal and Kathryn Bigelow that the leaders of the the Special Operations Command couldn't speak to them for appearances' sake. However, Vickers said that the Pentagon would make available a Navy SEAL who was involved in planning the raid from its earliest stages.

"On the operators side, Adm. McRaven and Adm. Olson do not want to talk directly, because it's just a bad, their [sic] just concerned as commanders of the force and they're telling them all the time—don't you dare talk to anybody, that it's just a bad example if it gets out—even with all sorts of restrictions and everything," Vickers said, according to a transcript of the meeting released Friday to Judicial Watch. The conservative watchdog group filed a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit demanding the documents.

"The basic idea is they'll make a guy available who was involved from the beginning as a planner, a SEAL Team 6 Operator and Commander," McRaven said.

"That's dynamite," Boal replied, according to the transcript. (Posted in full here and worth the read.)"

and yet NOW according to link
"The Pentagon is now withholding from the public and the press the same name DoD gave the filmmakers. The response sent to Judicial Watch explains the deletion by citing privacy concerns as well as a statute allowing the Secretary of Defense to protect the names of members of "routinely deployable" and "sensitive" units. It is unclear whether the court will uphold such a withholding given that the name was already disclosed to a member of the public by a senior official, apparently with some forethought."
The Link

IF this did happen I wonder if this can be blocked from viewing? At least until after elelction
 
Could impeachment be far behind?
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and what's with the question mark in your thread title, 67?
GIving yourself a little "I don't want to look like a partisan hack" wiggle room?
 
Sat
So you think the story IS true and you intimate my not being sure as some ploy??
Sath
if you think it is true how do you feel about what No and the admin did?
do you have an opinion on the actual topic
or is all you can do is make it personal ?
 
Giving certain journalists inside information to write articles frinedly to a cause is not unprecedented, even in wartime. I mean it's not like somebody in this aministration outed a spy because her husband (correctly) pointed out a lot of info being released to start a war with Iraq was bogus. Of course when that happened, somebody went to jail before quickly obtaining a presidential pardon.
 
the " story" is that when it happened people within the admin and even the SecDef said everyone agrees to NOT give details out for the safetyof people still there and to protect the means they used to get information
so BO etc gave detailed and sensitive info to a move aker who Gee GOSH what a coincidence, will release right before the election
but NOW? the DOD will not release the information it already gave to the movie maker.
and why?
"The Pentagon is now withholding from the public and the press the same name DoD gave the filmmakers. The response sent to Judicial Watch explains the deletion by citing privacy concerns as well as a statute allowing the Secretary of Defense to protect the names of members of "routinely deployable" and "sensitive" units. It is unclear whether the court will uphold such a withholding given that the name was already disclosed to a member of the public by a senior official, apparently with some forethought."


Gunny BO didn't seem to care about members deployed when he made sure the info got to the film maker

it is sadly amusing to see supporters deflect this even to haul out the lie that someone in Bush admin outted anyone. That lie was debunked long ago.

BUt CROCKETT let's say it happened as you think>

so does that mean you are ok with what Bo and his minions did here?
 
I've been in the media and did a little voluteer work helping politicians with media. Some guys you trust to tell the story your way and even let you view the final product to make sure it isn't embarrassing or wrong. Some guys will take anything you give them and it is immediately in the public domain. Some people you can't even trust to understand the story much less tell it straight. Just to be sure, the way this works is some media folks are trusted because they are trustworthy and good journalists. Some may have less competence and integrity, but they are on your side, so you trust them. But I think it should be politiicians perogative to cultivate journalists and give them special access and information, background and off the record stuff so they can understand a situation and tell the story better. You have to walk a tightrope and not endanger national security. I just don't buy the idea that if you let one journalist in on it, you have to let them all. Some people are so careful I'd trust them with my Nikkon camera. Some I wouldn't trust with a old hammer. The dumb ones or the ones working against you have to get their information from news releases, press conferences and short interviews where you are in control.
 
Crockett
You sound like you have some experience which surprises me that you pulled the But Bush did it card

and if you really did " voluteer " with Pols I am surprised you aren't aware of the difference between so called journalists and people who MAKE FILMS
the people BO et al gave the sensitive info to were NOT journalists but movie makers.
 
Did ya'll forget about this and the Bush administration's PR push behind it until it fell apart? Cue the outrage and indignation:

In reply to:
 
I wasn't so much pulling the " Bush Administration did it too" card, so much as asking folks to look at history and have a little perspective. If Obama is doing stuff on a par with outing agents, there needs to be criminal prosecution.

Filmmakers can be incredibly talented at message delivery (wish I were one). Being a filmmaker and a journalist is not mutually exclusive. As far as my advice to politicians, it's not like I took them to school. Just let novices know the basics. Answer the question and stop talking. Go into the interview with something you want to say and say it no matter where the questions are going. Speak in quotable phrases and remember that no matter how stupid the question, only the answer gets in print, Stuff anybody running for state legislature or above should already know.
 
Very desperate and will not help. Goodwill from foreign policy wins is short lived. Ask Bush Sr. People care about jobs and the economy. Everything else is secondary.
 
How revealing that some think releasing details of the OBL raid are just a tempest
and Others ( like SecDef, CIA Director and NSA) urged strongly to NOT give out any details so as to not endanger people still there.
But what do " they" know compared to the experts who post here?
 
What I posted was, ' If this is true"
And yesterday I had not seen the actual Docs Judicial Watch obtained through the FOIA.

Now they are available to read online at Judicial Watch's site
and what Politico reported yesterday is true.

How ,long before your next attempt to obfuscate?
 
So, are these the specifics of the "scandal "you want the world to stop for?

The filmmakers were shown a classified facility, whose name was redacted in the released documents, and toured CIA vaults.

They were also shown the CIA's replica of Bin Laden's compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan.
 
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it is sadly amusing to see supporters deflect this even to haul out the lie that someone in Bush admin outted anyone. That lie was debunked long ago.

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I didn't mean to "lie" and assumed since there was a felony conviction of the VP's chief of staff there was some malfeasance within the Bush administration that went way higher than the guy who took the fall. A rereading of the facts does confirm that Valerie Plame was pretty well "out" before the Bush administration launched an attack on findings and even the folks within the administration who confirmed she wrote the report didn't realize she was a covert operator. Journalists knew who she was already. It was lies during the cover up, a familiar story, that resulted in felony charges.

A rereading of the affair on Wikipedia was pretty instructive on the relationship between the press and high government officials. There's a lot of information being exchanged and it's amazing how inadvertant a leak can be.

Still, special access for special folks, say NFL films and HBO in the sporting world, can result in a great stories well told.
 
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