TexaninOregon
100+ Posts
......millions of Illegal Immigrants are counting on you!!!
Be sure to pay your taxes today...........
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Hu_Fan
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Finished my return Sunday. It would be old hat to complain about the obscene amount of taxes I paid, but I will reiterate a call for simplification of the code. My final return was 38 pages long.
Every legislator should be required to complete their own return, by hand with the IRS code book and their 1-800 number as only resource. Then we might finally see some common sense.
Every legislator should be required to complete their own return, by hand with the IRS code book and their 1-800 number as only resource. Then we might finally see some common sense.
Larry T. Spider
1,000+ Posts
....and pretty much every business that benefits from welfare type payments to poor people.
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Hu_Fan
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What would help senior citizens... all who are effectively retired according to social security...
If those individuals
(a) paid no more taxes, period
(b) at least, were not paying social security taxes (or full freight of self-employment taxes) -- only income taxes
My SE (self employment) tax was 66% of my tax bill.
I'm officially receiving benefits, including Medicare (and pay Part B).
It's insane I should still be paying into a system I already paid into since I was 15 years old.
If Obama wants to use his pen, I ask him to sign an executive order ending any self-employment taxes for those trying to freaking support themselves in old age.
The best possible system is: if you are officially retired, you pay more taxes on any earned income. Or, if you need to draw a line, draw it at age 72, or something. Over the 60s, into the 70s.
So, the New Law, as I'd have it: At age 72, you no longer pay taxes or file a tax return. You are retired!
The very idea of continuing to tax people into the grave is as much a social disgrace as any other kind of discrimination, intolerance or inequality issue. It's similar. It's picking on people and basically never letting them just live. They will have already done their part, so why not just leave them alone.
If those individuals
(a) paid no more taxes, period
(b) at least, were not paying social security taxes (or full freight of self-employment taxes) -- only income taxes
My SE (self employment) tax was 66% of my tax bill.
I'm officially receiving benefits, including Medicare (and pay Part B).
It's insane I should still be paying into a system I already paid into since I was 15 years old.
If Obama wants to use his pen, I ask him to sign an executive order ending any self-employment taxes for those trying to freaking support themselves in old age.
The best possible system is: if you are officially retired, you pay more taxes on any earned income. Or, if you need to draw a line, draw it at age 72, or something. Over the 60s, into the 70s.
So, the New Law, as I'd have it: At age 72, you no longer pay taxes or file a tax return. You are retired!
The very idea of continuing to tax people into the grave is as much a social disgrace as any other kind of discrimination, intolerance or inequality issue. It's similar. It's picking on people and basically never letting them just live. They will have already done their part, so why not just leave them alone.
ProdigalHorn
10,000+ Posts
The more I think about it, the more I think that a simplified tax system is not only a necessity, but a constitutional imperative. When a citizen needs to have some sort of special advanced training or education to be able to properly fill out and return his taxes, and when the government ostensibly makes benefits available to him which he's unable to comprehend - let alone access - without hiring a specialist, that's just not right.
We talk about the right to vote as being sacrosanct, and surely if we made the ballots so complex that 70 percent of the population needed to either hire a consultant or download software to complete it, there would be an uproar. So if paying taxes is mandated by me as a citizen, shouldn't I be able to not only complete and return them, but to actually understand what I'm doing?
We talk about the right to vote as being sacrosanct, and surely if we made the ballots so complex that 70 percent of the population needed to either hire a consultant or download software to complete it, there would be an uproar. So if paying taxes is mandated by me as a citizen, shouldn't I be able to not only complete and return them, but to actually understand what I'm doing?
the taxes are wasted: what useful things have been done with them?
Ok, the interstate highway system is good, as is regulation of the air traffic and the courts system, but beyond that?
Well, I agree that building dams and electric power systems is good and the radio waves have to be regulated.
And the military is probably a necessity I guess, and the space program has led to a lot of improvements and the government did develop the internet, without which we might be doing something else besides posting here, but what else?
Medical research? Ok. Agricultural research? I guess. Building of ports is ok, so is clean air and water. jBut beyond that?: Ok, keeping old people out of garbage cans and sleeping under trestles is acceptable. Etc.
Ok, the interstate highway system is good, as is regulation of the air traffic and the courts system, but beyond that?
Well, I agree that building dams and electric power systems is good and the radio waves have to be regulated.
And the military is probably a necessity I guess, and the space program has led to a lot of improvements and the government did develop the internet, without which we might be doing something else besides posting here, but what else?
Medical research? Ok. Agricultural research? I guess. Building of ports is ok, so is clean air and water. jBut beyond that?: Ok, keeping old people out of garbage cans and sleeping under trestles is acceptable. Etc.
Seattle Husker
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