B12 is really strong

caryhorn

caryhorn

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Non conference records top to bottom are unbelievably strong.

Team-----------Con----------------------------- Non Con

TX -------------- 7-2 --------------------------------11-2
KSU-------------6-3 ----------------------------- 12-1
KU---------------6-3 ------------------------------12-1
TCU------------- 6-3 ------------------------------11-2
ISU--------------- 6-3 -----------------------------10-3
BU----------------5-4 -----------------------------11-2
OSU-------------4-5 -------------------------------9-4
OU---------------2-7------------------------------10-3
WVU-------------2-7------------------------------10-3
TTU--------------1-8 ------------------------------11-2

I don't think any of the higher seeded teams in March are going to want to play any B12 lower seed.
 
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As of this moment, Bracketology has only OU and Tech missing the tournament, but we've seen that either of them can take anyone to the wire (or beat the **** out of them, like OU did to Bama).

It's going to get really confusing if a team like Tech goes on a run in February to get their overall record up to like 16-10, and then people are like "well can EVERY team in the XII actually be in the tournament?"
 
Down by 11 after the first half. Up by 3 at the end of the second half.
What a F’g game.
CONGRATULATIONS HORNS!!
 
OK State is ranked #35 in the newest NCAA NET. If they hang around there for the rest of the season, I don't see how they're kept out. Bracketology has them as the last at-large team selected for the whole shebang.

OU and Tech have a tougher hill to climb. Both ranked over #60 because NCAA has the quartile tiers and neither have strong overall records against the top half of Division I.

Without any regard to geography and selection committees, right now the conference would have:
2-seed
3-seed
3-seed
4-seed
5-seed
5-seed
6-seed
9-seed

SEC would have two of the 1-seeds, but a noticeable dropoff, with maybe only 3 other teams (Arkansas, Auburn, Kentucky) getting in. Again, this is just based on the NET.
 
Update 2/13:

OK State is now #29 in the NET. They're currently the lowest-ranked of the eight "gonna get in" XII teams. We crushed WVU, which actually helped them out at #25.

From this point on, every XII team has 6 conference regular season games remaining. The only thing that could really hurt any of the members (**cough** KSU) in terms of seeding would be losing to OU or Tech. Which is why tonight is so important... if things fall into place for Terry, this could be the difference between a #1 and a #2 seed, or a #2 and a #3 seed, etc.

I also think the conference tournament is going to feel super-minimalized once OU and Tech get eliminated from it. It's going to be slowed down and trying to not get anyone hurt for the following weeks. Can't risk it!

Tech got a massive bump in the other computer ratings for beating KSU, but the way that the NET operates, it's just another "1st quartile" game.
 
Damn, your right. My apologies to all water conservationist. I should have waited my turn, 3rd Saturday after my birthday in June as is customary.
 
Rooting for the state of Oklahoma to prevail over the state of Kansas tonight to help Texas in the conference standings
 
Update 2/16:

Kansas 9-4 21-5
Texas 9-4 20-6
Baylor 9-4 20-6
Iowa State 8-5 17-8
Kansas State 7-6 19-7
Oklahoma State 7-6 16-10
TCU 6-7 17-9
West Virginia 4-9 15-11
Oklahoma 3-10 13-13
Texas Tech 3-10 14-12

Bracketology seems to have locked in the top 8 teams, which is a little odd considering I could see WVU conceivably tanking for the last 5 games.

Tech's two big wins this week didn't do much for their NET ranking. They're up to #59, but it's tough to overcome the winning percentage against those top 2 quartiles.

The B1G seems to have cut into the overall conference standings by a good margin this week. The XII is still king for now, but it wasn't a great week in terms of our middling teams (KSU, OK State, TCU, WVU). The B1G's bottom 5 would probably lose to every team in the XII, but everyone else would hold their own.
 
It's not out of the question for all 10 teams in the conference to make the NCAA tournament.

Oklahoma is held back by a 4-10 record in quad 1. But their remaining schedule is brutal, with 4 quad-1 games. If they win 3 of those, plus 2 or 3 games in KC, they could get an at-large spot.

Tech's own NET is slightly higher than OU's, but their quad-1 record is even worse (3-10), their quad-2 record is abysmal (0-3), and their remaining SOS is easier. To get an at-large bid, they would probably have to sweep their remaining schedule and win at least 2 in KC.

Because Tech and Oklahoma still play each other, it is virtually impossible for them to both get an at-large. But the one who doesn't could win the conference tourney.
 
NCAA Committee Top 16 reveal today

Big 12 Seeds

Kansas #1
Texas #2 (5th overall)
Baylor #2
Iowa St #3
Kansas St #3
 
Six Big 12 teams in the Top 24 this week with three of those in the Top 9 with Kansas #3, Texas #8 and Baylor #9

KSU #14, ISU #23 & TCU #24
 
Very well could come down to the last game with KU although its closing schedule is easier with Hillbilly and sand aggy at home. Horns have Bailor and the Frogs on the road. They need to play like they did last night against Iowa St. and they could take both but need at least a split. They could then at least tie with KU beating them at home. 2-1 should get a two seed regardless of the conference tournament.
 
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Very well could come down to the last game with KU although its closing schedule is easier with Hillbilly and sand aggy at home. Horns have Bailor and the Frogs on the road. They need to play like they did last night against Iowa St. and they could take both but need at least a split. They could then at least tie with KU beating them at home. 2-1 should get a two seed regardless of the conference tournament.
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Yes, I agree. And I do think the Horns would deserve a one seed IF they either
1) win the Big 12 regular season
or
2) win the Big 12 tournament.
Runner up in either one of the above and I think they deserve a two seed.
 
Update going into the weekend (2/24)

Kansas 11-4 23-5
Texas 11-4 22-6
Kansas State 9-6 21-7
Baylor 9-6 20-8
Iowa State 8-7 17-10
TCU 7-8 18-10
Oklahoma State 7-8 16-12
Texas Tech 5-10 16-12
West Virginia 5-10 16-12
Oklahoma 3-12 13-15

Bracketology still has WVU in... which is kind of confusing since it appears Tech is vastly superior at this point in the season. NET is still punishing Tech at #48, but the computer rankings mostly have them between #30-35. If Tech finishes out with a couple wins, I think they'll have to at least consider putting them in the Final 4 (11-seeds).

OK State kind of plummeted too with 3 straight losses.

For Texas, the big question is whether we're a #2 seed or #3 seed. ESPN seems to REALLY be pushing for us to get a #2 with the BPI and the human top-16 seeding committee stories. I think if we can win one between BU and KU, we should be a #2. Lose both and we're a #3. TCU game in Fort Worth probably won't be the deciding factor either way, unless they pummel us. Which is possible.

Other conferences didn't seem to make any headway against the XII this week. The rankings still seem to be:
1. XII (especially because KU seems to be the best team in the country right now)
2. B1G
3. Big East
4t. SEC and Pac
Distant 5th: ACC - I don't want to see any stories about them getting 9 teams into the tournament. They don't deserve more than 6 spots at this point, and you know they're going to make it so that some of those "17-12" teams get in. Even though OU and Tech would knock the **** out of them.
 
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