Aziz Ansari as Bobby Jindal Talks Polls, 'Science Myths' on 'Fallon'

[texas_ex2000]

"I'm the only candidate that doesn't believe in any science, period," comedian cracks

http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news...-talks-polls-science-myths-on-fallon-20151105


Here's another link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Jindal

Jindal graduated from Brown University in 1991 at the age of 20, with honors in two majors, biology and public policy.[15][16] He was one of 50 students nationwide admitted to the Program in Liberal Medical Education (PLME), guaranteeing him a place at Brown Medical School. Jindal is also credited with leading Brown's College Republicans student group.[17]Jindal was named to the 1992 USA Today All-USA Academic Team. He applied to and was accepted by both Harvard Medical School and Yale Law School, but studied at New College, Oxford, as a Rhodes Scholar. He received an M.Litt. degree in political science with an emphasis in health policy from the University of Oxford in 1994, where the subject of his thesis was "A needs-based approach to health care".
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In 1993, U.S. Representative Jim McCrery (whom Jindal had worked for as a summer intern) introduced him to Governor Murphy Foster.[21] In 1996, Foster appointed Jindal as Secretary of the Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals, an agency that represented about 40 percent of the state budget and employed over 12,000 people. Foster called Jindal a genius who has a lot of knowledge of medicine.[22] Jindal was 24 at the time.[23] During his tenure, Louisiana's Medicaid program went from bankruptcy with a $400 million deficit into three years of surpluses totaling $220 million.[24] Jindal was criticized during the 2007 campaign by the Louisiana AFL-CIO for closing some local clinics to reach that surplus.[25] Under Jindal's term, Louisiana nationally rose to third place in child healthcare screenings, with child immunizations rising, and introduced new and expanded services for the elderly and the disabled.[26] In 1998, Jindal was appointed executive director of the National Bipartisan Commission on the Future of Medicare, a 17-member panel charged with devising plans to reform Medicare. In 1999, at the request of the Louisiana governor's office and the Louisiana State Legislature, Jindal examined how Louisiana might use its $4.4 billion share of the tobacco settlement.

In 1998, Jindal received the Samuel S. Beard Award for greatest public service by an individual 35 years old or under, an award given annually by Jefferson Awards.[27]

At 28 years of age in 1999, Jindal was appointed to become the youngest-ever president of the University of Louisiana System, the nation's 16th largest system of higher education with over 80,000 students per year.[28]

Jindal should quit the race. But I'm pretty sure he, a Rhodes Scholar, would run circles around this comedian when it comes to science.

What exactly is the point of these things? Entertainment? Is this how liberals entertain themselves - sitting in a media echo chamber where comedians with marketing degrees telling them how awesome and enlightened they are by mocking Ivy League educated Rhodes Scholars (Jindal - Ansari), doctors (Carson - Jimmy Kimmel sleep aid skit), and lawyers (Cruz - Ellen Page documentary ambush)? I actually feel pity for these folks who "thumb up" these things. Their minds are trapped.

 

[Horns11]

Jindal has said things like "evolutionary biology isn't science" and "I'll leave climate change up to the scientists, but as for me..."

So either he's dumbing down rhetoric as politicians do to garner support from their base, or his science background from Brown and beyond was just a cursory "glance" at science before he went off to do political science at Oxford. My guess is the former.

His medical background basically consists of telling Governor Foster to close high-traffic clinics (in which most of the patients were Medicare/Medicaid users) to get rid of the state deficit. So whenever his knowledge of medicine comes up, he looks like a genius to Republicans when he's actually more of a bureaucratic hatchet man than a scientist.

So yes, while Libs like to poke fun of Republican candidates in areas which the Libs have no background, I don't think it's much of a stretch to make fun of Jindal for his science-denying.

 

[texas_ex2000]

11, again Jindal graduated from Brown with honors at 20 with a degree in biology. He was accepted into Yale Law, Harvard Medical, Brown Medical, and Oxford on a Rhodes Schloarship. You might disagree with his politics or his management abilities, but his intellect is unimpeachable.

I don't have the time to dig through all his quotes for context. I don't have to, because as a Catholic/Christian, including scientists who are also Christians, I know the context of your sound bites.

I'm sorry that the existence of scientists who believe in a Creator and other scientists who uphold the scientific principle of critically testing theories such as AGW don't fit your narrative, but the fact of the matter is, those people exist and they believe in science.

 

[Horns11]

I'm sorry that the existence of scientists who believe in a Creator and other scientists who uphold the scientific principle of critically testing theories such as AGW don't fit your narrative, but the fact of the matter is, those people exist and they believe in science.

That's the thing... it's not "my" narrative. It's Jindal's.

When he says things like "leave it to the scientists," he's pandering.

 

[Seattle Husker]

It was humor and Jindal has left himself room to be mocked like any other candidate. Honestly, I didn't know he was still in the race.

 

[Larry T Spider]

Jindal has said things like "evolutionary biology isn't science" and "I'll leave climate change up to the scientists, but as for me..."

So either he's dumbing down rhetoric as politicians do to garner support from their base, or his science background from Brown and beyond was just a cursory "glance" at science before he went off to do political science at Oxford. My guess is the former.

His medical background basically consists of telling Governor Foster to close high-traffic clinics (in which most of the patients were Medicare/Medicaid users) to get rid of the state deficit. So whenever his knowledge of medicine comes up, he looks like a genius to Republicans when he's actually more of a bureaucratic hatchet man than a scientist.

So yes, while Libs like to poke fun of Republican candidates in areas which the Libs have no background, I don't think it's much of a stretch to make fun of Jindal for his science-denying.

Here is your answer. Hes a smart guy and a political hack. They aren't mutually exclusive.

 

[Mr. Deez]

Larry nailed it.

 

[texas_ex2000]

Here is your answer. Hes a smart guy and a political hack. They aren't mutually exclusive.

That's a specious response and no one here is saying otherwise.

But that's not what my OP was about. Apparently, you can't be religious or critically think about AGW (either the chemistry/physics/science of it all or what policy wonks, such as Jindal, do...think about the economics of its impact) and "believe in science." In fact, you're mocked by comedians who majored in marketing.

If you haven't figured it out, it's not just entertainment.

 

[texas_ex2000]

That's the thing... it's not "my" narrative. It's Jindal's.

When he says things like "leave it to the scientists," he's pandering.

It is your narrative. He has never said he does not believe in science. On the contrary, he was an accomplished student of science at Brown University.

And when he says things like, "leave it to the scientists," the context is that economics of AGW are what matters when it comes to policy making. That is not pandering. What's pandering is the liberal media saying a republican "doesn't believe in the science of AGW" when all he/she is saying is the costs of of policies have to be considered. Of course that isn't fun. So screw the truth, and let's just mock republicans.

 

[chango]

I don't have the time to dig through all his quotes for context

I hate to go all left v right -- but isn't this kind of the mantra of the right? "I don't have time to pay attention to facts but it doesn't rally matter. I already know what I believe "

 

[texas_ex2000]

I hate to go all left v right -- but isn't this kind of the mantra of the right? "I don't have time to pay attention to facts but it doesn't rally matter. I already know what I believe "

Chango,

No. I've watched him talk. I've heard his answers to "leave it to the scientists." I know what the context is. I'm getting a coffee, so I'm typing this right now. But I don't have the time to find the entire context on my phone to something 11 posted without a link.

You should know by now that I pay attention to facts.

And again, if one believes in a Creator, does that mean he/she isn't paying attention to facts? That's what your question, a false dichotomy, presupposes.

 

[Horns11]

You're the one who brought up a Creator. No one ever attacked Jindal for being religious.

There's a difference between saying "as someone who believes in God, as if it matters, I don't think there's a magic bullet policy governments can create in order to mitigate the effects of AGW" versus "I don't believe in AGW." It's disingenuous for a person of his intellect to cow tow to the citizens of Louisiana and anyone who would choose him in a national primary to say things like "evolutionary biology isn't a science" if he's truly the scientist you make him out to be.

Plus, the point of your OP was to say that Libs/comedians who pick on those poor GOP candidates (or watch/agree with it) are mindless. Fine, you got your point across. I'm saying there's a root cause of the comedy, and it's typically provided by the candidates. If there was a conservative version of The Daily Show or Last Week Tonight, they'd do the same thing towards Bernie Sanders. Well, I guess that's what Fox News is for.

 

[texas_ex2000]

You're the one who brought up a Creator. No one ever attacked Jindal for being religious.

And that folks, is how it all happens. Good people don't even realize what they're doing. We're at this place now where mocking a person's position on evolutionary biology is just comedy.

How do folks like it when conservatives joke/mock that Obama is a Muslim and not Christian?

There's a difference between saying "as someone who believes in God, as if it matters...

11, you need to go back and read the thread again. His belief in God has nothing to do with his statements on AGW, and I never said as such.

"I don't believe in AGW."

I'd challenge you to provide a link where he says this. But I don't want you to waste your time. You can just get a beer instead, because I never post something on here I know isn't 100% accurate -> He has never said this.

You can start here if you wanted to: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/bobby-jindal-believe-candidate-stands-10-issues/

say things like "evolutionary biology isn't a science" if he's truly the scientist you make him out to be.

Please provide a link to where he says this.

Plus, the point of your OP was to say that Libs/comedians who pick on those poor GOP candidates (or watch/agree with it) are mindless. Fine, you got your point across.

That's the 80% answer. The bigger point is that we need to be more discriminating and critical of the media/entertainment/art that affects our politics. Easy media/entertainment/art is not what we should be settling for as citizens and voters.

And I can't remember if you're a lawyer or not. But if a liberal is attacking/mocking Jindal (the random conservative that happens to be the target of the impression) as a "science denier," I'd say the Best Evidence Rule - an honors degree from Brown University in biology, makes that liberal look really stupid.

You know...scientists have also disagreed with each other. It's not unusual.

 

[Monahorns]

I watched some of Ansari's stand up. It isn't very funny, and I watch a lot of stand up. I was rather disappointed because of how popular he is and all. I think that is the only thing he is good at: finding the popular stance, clinging on to it, and insulting those that don't agree with him. Most comedians out there do this, but offer something witty or some observation that rings true even though I disagree with the general statement. I like comics who can be offensive, dry, a little dirty, liberal, drug-addled, paranoid, etc. as long as there is something behind that which is funny or witty. Aziz just ejaculates words at the end of his jokes. It could work if the jokes were funny or insightful.

I think I would rather watch Jindal tell jokes, and I bet Aziz couldn't do anything Bobby does.

 

[Seattle Husker]

I'd agree that Ansari isn't really funny.