Attention: All Band Geeks, especially OLD BANDIES!

orangecat

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attended a HS football playoff game Saturday, one of the best football games I remember. Our team, Newman Smith, lost 28-25 to Longview, great game, but Halftime, wow!

Longview band comes out in old military-looking garb with white shoes, marches 6 to 5 from end zone to middle of field. They do an honest to goodness military style marching band show complete with whistle commands. Drum majors were girls, dressed in complete traditional "drum majorette" attire, very short skirts, etc.

The band split into two blocks to march their show, each block had a drum majorette giving their whistle commands. One thing that was refreshing was the band was playing almost the entire time they were marching.

Then for their exit, they formed a block L, the announcer comes on, tells crowd about the L, the Longview side applauds big time as they exit.

At first I was in a state of shock. The last time I saw one of these kinds of shows was in 1980, my soph year in HS, and that was Bryan HS. It was kind of obvious why they marched that kind of stuff, being so close to A & M.

Anyway, I've talked to a couple of people who really liked the show, because of the prevalance nowadays of the schools who get out there and bore people with their symphony on the field stuff.

Anyway, a few questions.

1. This style is so old, when was it really in? 50s? 60s? 70s? Our HS dropped the white shoes after '80, but we never did any military style stuff.

2. Curious about other people. When was the last time you saw a military style show, other than A & M?

3. I'm kind of glad I saw it, it was like looking at a window in time. I'm still kind of shocked by it, do they march that kind of thing all of the time in east Texas, or is this the exception?

For what it was it was pretty good, especially if you like to hear a marching band play an actual march. If you're in the area and you like history, go see them this weekend. I guarantee you will see something completely different than you are used to seeing at halftime.
 
Last time I saw a military style marching band was in the 2002 UIL area competition. Top five or so bands at that contest advance to state. And the military band was none other than Longview. I remember our band doing our best to be polite and supress laughter while some band was doing a show that we would call a warm-up.

I know some folks don't like it, but to anyone musically inclined, the military shows are the boring stuff. Getting geeked up about marching in straight lines, always facing the direction you're going, and playing "The Battle Hymn of the Republic" is a middle-aged football fan's equivalent to a teenager listening to Fergie or Lady Gaga.
 
I don't know all that much about bands but I know that the Longview band has received a "1" every year for decades. I can't remember exactly how many years but I think it is over forty.

Most of the schools in the East Texas area march military style which I heard some announcer this year refer to as "the dignified military manner". A&M used to sponsor a "military band marching contest" in College Station that was attended by many bands from the East Texas area.

I haven't taken note of the white shoes lately but my son's band was still wearing them in the 90's.
 
Saw a band march this style show at state in the late 90s. One of the judges ranked them first and another ranked them last. Guess the judges can't decide whether or not they like it either.
 
couldn't sleep, was surfing, found a whole little community of east Texas high schools, they formed their own little organization to promote military style marching bands, they have that contest mentioned earlier, it's now held at SFA every year, they had 16 schools participate this year. I watched a couple of youtube videos, boy does it get boring after the first one. No doubt as an outlier I can see the refreshing difference, but on a regular basis, yuck!

Isn't it amazing that as a state, we are so big that something like this can exist without hardly anyone in an urban area can be aware of this. Kind of like 6 man football, I guess,difference is I've actually heard of 6 man football, but this, I had no clue.
 
Another one here who just likes all bands, I find it interesting that if you ask Texas fans which shows they like the best, invariably they will say Wall To Wall and Shotgun TEXAS. Few ever mention the amoeba formations. I love LHB because it's called The Show Band!
 
There has to be a middle ground. Marching back and forth can be boring, but seriously the most boring shows I have seen have started with some line like "The Central High Band now performs Reflections of the Inner Eye featuring music by noted twentieth century composers Witold Lutoslaewski and Ned Rorem”. This is followed by slow, symphonic music with a whole of gimmicky percussions and xylophones, and marching around in assorted shapes. The band then comes together in, finally, an obvious geometric shape and they play a loud note. This happens a couple of times. In the end, when they play the last loud notes, they spread their feet a bit and let their bodies move to the music to show how intense the music is. I have seen some version of this ridiculous, boring show for so many years, that I would be happy to see some band march in recognizable formations and play recognizable music.

From what I hear, the DCI thing is more fun for the musicians, but I find that hard to believe since they work on one show for the entire season. In the old days, the bands would do 4-5 different shows through the football season and end with a contest show.
 
Never seen a high school band perform such a show but, for what its worth, I enjoy watching the Aggie Band do their thing.

That's not to say that LHB taking the field doesn't give me goosebumps every time.
 
Our band (LBJ) usually did one or two military-style shows at the end of the semester after contest season was over, especially when it wasn't 4A's turn to compete for state. And we had white shoes until 1998.

Military-style marching is nice for a change of pace every once in a while (especially for us - it's much easier so we were relieved by it) but I would agree that watching it every week would get very boring.
 
I was part of the Austin Bowie band that went to state in 1999 (big deal at the time) and I remember watching Kingwood HS (Humble, TX) band which was the only military marching band that made it to state. They were awesome and definately a crowd favorite, even though they finished near the bottom of the competition.
 
yeah, middle ground. I was lucky, we at Round Rock owned that ground for a couple of years, used those Randol Bass arrangements, glided over the grass but used yard markers to make geometric shapes while playing Bass' arrangement of tunes such as Grieg Medley, Let it Be Me, Greensleeves, In the Mood.

We actually did 4 or 5 different shows a year. One time we put together a show, and two weeks later came up here to Dallas to perform it at the Parade of Champions Marching Festival. Only time I marched at the Cotton Bowl. The first time on the turf was strange to say the least.

No symphony BS for us.

My friend has a son in the Newman Smith band, says they hire a composer to compose an original piece every year, pay the guy big bucks every year.
 
btw, this is the 30th anniversary year of the first ever state marching championship. I think UT sponsored it because the UIL doesn't recognize it starting this early.

Whatever it was called, we called it state. Anybody who scored a 1 in marching was invited, we had preliminaries and finals at memorial stadium, and we won!!

It was December 1979, and it was nice and cool that night. I talked to a reporter from the American Statesman, Kim Tyson, I didn't have anything quote worthy so she got some quotes from some seniors.

pretty good article in the statesman the next morning in the city/state section.


We had a neat math thing going on. 3-2=1.

3rd at Westlake marching festival, 2nd in Parade of Champions, 1st at state
 
I'm with DFW on this one, most are boring, i kind of like the military style as a change of pace.

I'm also in east texas, watched Longview, Texarkana, Sulphur Springs, Marshall....well, arguably the toughest most competitive football district in 4A and I only remember one half time show that was military and it wasn't Longview, i want to say it was Hallsville? Longview does have a good band/halftime show but i don't remember it being a military style.
 
My HS only did drum corps style shows. I graduated in 2002, and I don't remember any military shows out in West Texas at the time.

I always enjoyed doing corps style shows. The music is much more fun to play. It seems to me that this analogy describes the difference:

veer offense : military style :: spread offense : corps style
 
OK. How many of you were in band in Austin the late 70's??

Me? Crockett 74-78... Paula Crider was our director. (Yes, before UT).
 
I live in Longview and my son is in one of the area high school bands (military style). I can attest to the fact that military style marching bands are very prevalent in the east Texas area (especially NE Texas). I can probably name 15 or more military style high school bands within 60 miles of us. I really have no idea why there is such a cluster of these bands in this area. It may be the aggy influence, but it seems to be primarily up here in the NE part of the state rather than all around College Station.

The contest one poster mentioned at Stephen F. Austin (SFA) in Nacogdoches is called NAMMB (National Association of Military Marching Bands). I've been there the last two years to see my son's band perform. Most of the bands are from the NE Texas area with a couple of stray bands from Kingwood (mentioned by someone else) and Vidor. I don't know if this is the same contest someone else mentioned that used to be in College Station. As far as I know there isn't one there now and NAMMB is not sponsored by A&M.

That reminds me though that I've had the misfortune of going to a high school that had the Aggy War Hymn for their fight song and now my kids are in a school that also does. I'm so damn sick of hearing that song. I can't make myself stand up and clap to the song during the high school games. There must have been a hell of a lot of aggy band directors around the state at one time or another because I know there are a bunch of schools that use this God awful song.
 
To me, Drum Corps and Bands of America style shows are much more fun to march, are more entertaining than military style shows, and are more technically difficult from both an individual marching and playing standpoint. I still remember when an aggie corps member came to recruit our band after we placed in the top 3 at BOA nationals. The person said you didnt have to know how to play an instrument, and that as long as you could stay in formation theyd give you any instrument to just hold. Our band director was not pleased and that recruiting attempt was over.
 
I was in LHB in 69-70 - 6 to 5 military style (although we did do other types of formations too - geometric shapes, flowers, and such). We damn sure DID have to know how to play and the implication that when you march military style, playing isn't important is wrong. Anyone who watched LHB back then knows we put on some great shows both marching and playing. I'm not opposed to different styles - I like a mix - but don't be dissing military style as just a bunch of yahoos that can stay in line, but don't care so much about the playing part.

Gail in WA
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world, I attended a Pearsall game once. Didn't the fight song start with the aggy song and then go into Texas fight?
 
Unsure about what was played at the game you saw - could have been a special arrangement but what I failed to mention regarding our fight song was that it was played up tempo. So imagine the Aggy War Hymn played double time at about 120 bpm - the only good about it is that it's over quickly!
 
I was in drumline in high school at Keller and we played one of the Irving Schools. I think it was Irving Nimitz and their band marched Military.
 

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