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I was thinking yesterday about what i wanted to see the most in this coming season from our team play. (Besides a national championship)...for me it's probably the use of the tight ends. I was a tight end when I played. We have the talent now and a few more coming in next year. I hope we spread the field and let our tight ends out play single coverage. Just one quick move to open that window and boom 6-12 yard gain. Works for me. OK got that out of my system. Time to focus on work. Reality. What aspect of team play are you most interested this coming season? So many to choose from.:beertoast:
 
I want to see an O-line that can consistently impose its will on almost all if not all our opponents. At least a stalemate against the very best teams we play.
 
1) A QB who can read a defense

2) A QB who can throw farther than 35 yards

3) A QB who can throw a fade

4) A play caller who recognizes and exploits mismatches - see also #4 & last year's OU game

5) Duvernay's speed used in the open field not in hindered in the redzone
 
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O & D lines that can walk up to the line of scrimmage and knock people down so that the bad guys are gasping for air by the 2:00 minute mark of the third quarter. That likely takes care of other area's of concern.

That is all.

:usflag::brickwall::deadhorse::hookem2::cowrose:
 
RBs!

I hope Keontay Ingram bursts onto the scene and has an immediate impact on our running game. Grind that clock in the 4th quarter when your opponent knows you are running the ball and they can't stop it. #1-0
 
Well, predictably, the replies are mostly about the offense. My gut says our defense will be even better than last year's. :fiestanana:
On another note, in view of the new red shirt rule I wonder if the thinking for scheduling might change a little. With playing freshman more at the end of the season will the schedule be softer. I know these are usually rivalry games but this might be a consideration.
 
Before I read any replies to the original post, I thought OL, OL, OL! Dominate and impose your will on the D... wear 'em down.

Everything starts there on O. :hookem:
 
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LousianaHorn said:
all of these are good but if the O-line play doesn't improve its a pipe dream.
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To an extent. If we have a QB that can exploit defense, then the defense will try to rush the QB, which opens up running lanes. The same logic if we get the TE going, etc.
 
WorsterMan said:
Before I read any replies to the original post, I thought OL, OL, OL!
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No doubt.. same here.

SabreHorn said:
2) A QB who can throw farther than 35 yards
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I'm thinking that might actually happen if they had some time to throw the damn ball. :whiteflag:

What I want to see the most next season is a competent offense. I'm not hoping for a playoff team by any stretch but I certainly want more than what I've been seeing. It took Todd Orlando what.. one game (Maryland) to iron out the wrinkles and get a 100% legit defense on the field and here we are watching Groundhog day on offense for nearly a decade. I'm sick of it.
 
1. O-line play improvement
2. Quarterback composure, confidence, and making plays
3. Better play-calling, mismatch finding, and exploitation of defenses
4. Make field goals
5. The new Aussie punter to be as good as the old Aussie punter but with better taste in clothes and not needed to be used as much
 
Play calling for sure. Both QB's are more experienced this year as is the OL. The proper use of talent in the offensive will be the game changer along with the play calling. I don't think that Herman will make the same mistake with Beck that Strong did with Watson. Our D should be lights out.:bevo:
 
Of course, there are schools that every year get top tier talent, but what always fascinates me is how often programs experience fairly high levels of success without possessing the highest levels of talent. It happens frequently, as it should. I mean, we are talking about college players, still unrefined, here. There are ways to create success...it's not an unsolvable riddle. This one thing more than any other is why if I were an athletic director I would be able to justify keeping pressure on an underperforming coach/program. (And I'm not necessarily speaking of Herman or our program really, here... just a general thought about the subject)
 
RainH2burntO said:
Of course, there are schools that every year get top tier talent, but what always fascinates me is how often programs experience fairly high levels of success without possessing the highest levels of talent. It happens frequently, as it should. I mean, we are talking about college players, still unrefined, here. There are ways to create success...it's not an unsolvable riddle. This one thing more than any other is why if I were an athletic director I would be able to justify keeping pressure on an underperforming coach/program. (And I'm not necessarily speaking of Herman or our program really, here... just a general thought about the subject)
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I have always believed there is a lot of elite talent out there that doesnt get recognized for whatever reason. There are over a million high school kids playing football every year so just the top 1% would be over 10,000 elite players or about 2,500 graduates per year so there is way more talent out there than the ESPN top 300. Teams like Texas and Alabama can pick up the rated players and teams like TCU mostly have to rely on scrubbing around to find those players who are under rated. They are very good at getting those 3 star under rated players with something to prove.
 
Pomspoms said:
Well, predictably, the replies are mostly about the offense. My gut says our defense will be even better than last year's. :fiestanana:
On another note, in view of the new red shirt rule I wonder if the thinking for scheduling might change a little. With playing freshman more at the end of the season will the schedule be softer. I know these are usually rivalry games but this might be a consideration.
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I am very excited about this rule change. Programs like Texas should be able to put in their more talented freshmen for one or two early cupcake games for experience. If those players continue to develop during the season, they can provide depth for a few games at the end of the season when guys are getting banged up.

Given our defensive haul this off season I think the D will be up to snuff.

So my list is short: (1) competent o-line play; and (2) better play calling. If those two items can improve marginally, I think we can get to 8 wins.
 
Vol Horn 4 Life said:
I have always believed there is a lot of elite talent out there that doesnt get recognized for whatever reason. There are over a million high school kids playing football every year so just the top 1% would be over 10,000 elite players or about 2,500 graduates per year so there is way more talent out there than the ESPN top 300. Teams like Texas and Alabama can pick up the rated players and teams like TCU mostly have to rely on scrubbing around to find those players who are under rated. They are very good at getting those 3 star under rated players with something to prove.
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This topic has me thinking now about some teams that stand out who got a lot out of "a little".
 
p_town_horn said:
I am very excited about this rule change. Programs like Texas should be able to put in their more talented freshmen for one or two early cupcake games for experience. If those players continue to develop during the season, they can provide depth for a few games at the end of the season when guys are getting banged up.

Given our defensive haul this off season I think the D will be up to snuff.

So my list is short: (1) competent o-line play; and (2) better play calling. If those two items can improve marginally, I think we can get to 8 wins.
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Interesting you said put in for "early cupcake games" because I read Herman's comments on the subject and an article which suggested having a few play later in the year in a few select games might be the approach.
 
RainH2burntO said:
This topic has me thinking now about some teams that stand out who got a lot out of "a little".
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I have never compiled any data, but I would guess those hidden gems usually come from smaller schools so big schools just dismiss talent for them piling up stats against lesser opponents.
 
RainH2burntO said:
This topic has me thinking now about some teams that stand out who got a lot out of "a little".
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As much as I dislike them, Bill Yoeman has to be near the top of that list. In 20+ years I remember him getting two top recruits - Warren McVea and lineman from Wiemar that robbed the convenience store before reporting, so he wound up reporting to Huntsville not the Third Ward.

Mike Leach never had a coveted class, yet got the maximum out of the hand dealt him.

Gary Barnett maximized his talent

I shall exclude from any list the coaches that recruited at the county jail or state department of corrections
 
One team that came to my mind was that Kansas team that was neck and neck with Missouri that year they both went bowling pretty big....was that 2008 I believe..Mangini..
And I think won an Orange Bowl??
 
p_town_horn said:
I am very excited about this rule change. Programs like Texas should be able to put in their more talented freshmen for one or two:trophy: early cupcake games for experience. If those players continue to develop during the season, they can provide depth for a few games at the end of the season when guys are getting banged up.

Given our defensive haul this off season I think the D will be up to snuff.

So my list is short: (1) competent o-line play; and (2) better play calling. If those two items can improve marginally, I think we can get to 8 wins.
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Hmm only 8 wins.
I would be disappointed with only 8 wins.
I think our defense is too stout for just 8 wins. I am confident our offense will be better; better o-line play, tight end, RB and QB play. We actually have experienced qbs, even more than one which is called depth. We have depth at all positions with o-line, admittedly, the weakest, but not too bad.(I am hoping for the best)
Opposing offenses will fear our defense or at least love the challenge of besting us. Orlando is a stud DC.
We will win ten games unless we fail to protect the ball. On that note it will be hard to match last years defensive TDs. But we won't be far behind. We will certainly be in every game and TCU is going down or my name is....
 
RainH2burntO said:
Mangini..
And I think won an Orange Bowl?
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Indeed, Mangino took KU to heights they hadn't seen since there was a guy in the backfield named John Riggins, and won the Orange Bowl That would be the same Mangino who replaced Mike Leach as OC in Norman and kicked the **** out of us on OU's way to a National Championship. The guy was a great offensive mind, but apparently an ******* at times.
 
SabreHorn said:
As much as I dislike them, Bill Yoeman has to be near the top of that list. In 20+ years I remember him getting two top recruits - Warren McVea and lineman from Wiemar that robbed the convenience store before reporting, so he wound up reporting to Huntsville not the Third Ward.

Mike Leach never had a coveted class, yet got the maximum out of the hand dealt him.

Gary Barnett maximized his talent

I shall exclude from any list the coaches that recruited at the county jail or state department of corrections
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Agree completely on Yeoman but he got several big-time guys over the years.
Gary "Moon" Mullins was the top QB in the state the same year Worster was top RB. Wilson Whitley and Hosea Taylor were the top DT in their respective classes. There are several others I could name but only the older fans like us would remember so I'll leave it at that.
 
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