Are corporation's people???

I35

I35

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I'm confused about this. The Dems say they are not people. So this should exonerate all of the employees that are still alive and in prison and worked for this machine or desk or wall or computer named Enron. This Enron whatever you want to call it made some really bad decisions and made the employees pay for it.
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Do corporations send their children (employees) off to war?

American citizens vote. Corporations might be comprised of foreign nationals as well as US citizens. When a corporation gives unlimited money to a political cause, it's possible that the goal is to not only drive policy to benefit the corporation, but also benefit foreign country(s) where members of the corporate board are from. Thus, a corporation provides a backdoor entrance for foreign nationals to influence US elections and policy via free speech (millions of dollars).

The Citizens United decision is arguably the worst decision made by the Supreme Court in the past several decades. The latest ruling (ObamaCare is a tax, hence it is Constitutional) is another.
 
Damn, I hope no one votes based on stupid semantical bull$hit like this. Corporations obviously aren't people in the literal sense. They're a few sheets of paper filed with a state agency. However, they are owned by and employ people. It's extremely hard, if not impossible, to screw a corporation without screwing human beings, good or bad.
 
Corporations as people is a legal standard that has been twisted out of proportion for political purposes.
 
Liberals hate predatory corporations and business types. Conservatives have perverted that to mean any and all business. Which is a crock o ****.
 
While I don't consider myself a liberal, I'm guilty on occasion of stereotyping sectors of the economy (oil, pharma, financial etc) but then again I can't remember ever seeing the economy fail because of furniture makers or lumberjacks. These sectors are the gorillas and as such their influence peddling to secure special treatment has done damage to the whole. Is every financial employee bad or even every financial company...obviously 'NO' but they have shown as a sector that they are willing to walk us right up to the edge of the cliff for their own self-interest. They don't self-police and 'the market' doesn't adequately police them either. This "attack on business" you speak of makes just about much sense as the Dems "war on women" talk.
 
And yet without them we don't have much of an economy. It puts you in the tough position of choosing to attack the gorillas in the US that make up 90% of our economy or choosing to maintain your quality of life. If the US gorillas go they aren't going away, anyway. They are just going to move to a more favorable business climate or be taken over by a new animal. Credit Suisse would be happy to take Chase's market share and Luxemburg would be happy to have a US based international finance company relocate there.
 
Funny, how people have a problem with Corporations giving money but do not hold the poltician responsible for taking the money, ie Senator Obama, Senator Dodd or Congressman Frank to name just a few of the bigger beneficiaries of Fannie and Freddie in the recent past.

Hold the politician responsible, why is the corporation the bad guy? Wait they aren't people, why is the corporation made out to be evil?
 
Or instead of "attacking business" and political hyperbole we could chose sensible legislation that is a smart compromise and stays in place long enough for businesses to plan more than the next election cycle before the GOP undoes what the Dems did or the Dems undo what the GOP did.

We obviously need strong businesses in the US, we obviously need a mix of aspects that are critical to business success to thrive. I just don't think a few points of the tax rate are the make or break items so many make them out to be.

I think there needs to be both spending reduction and revenue increases but I will say that the agreement should be struck in such a way that the cuts come first, and the tax only kicks in after the cut threshold has been met.

As we have seen in the past, when these deals are struck, the tax kicks in and the cuts never manifest. there is a way around this.
 
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