An NFL OLineman on UT's OLine/Wickline

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Offensive lineman Dan Neil was a Texas Longhorns 4-year starter and 2-time All-American. He played 8 years with the Denver Broncos (starting for 7 years) and was a two-time Super Bowl winner. Dan thinks Texas needs to move toward Jerrod Heard and/or Kai Locksley at QB because he doesn't see championship pedigree in Tyrone Swoopes.

Here's his take on UT's OL/Wickline after Saturday's game...


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It is hard to watch a game like the one I watched Saturday night and not be able to do something about it. As a fan, I sympathize with everyone when we see a performance like we did against Notre Dame.

When you play football long enough you learn to find the positive out of the situation. You have to find the positive when you lose the opening game because it is a long season.

A lot can change from week to week and most importantly, the opponent usually changes. Rice may be what the doctor ordered for this team. The Owls have a veteran, dual-threat in senior QB Driphus Jackson and a 1,000-yard rusher in RB Jowan Davis. But Rice has three new OL starters and only three starters back on defense from a team that beat Fresno State 30-6 in the Hawaii Bowl last season.

And make no mistake, Rice's David Bailiff can coach. You don't have two, 10-win seasons (2008, 2013) at Rice without being a good coach.

But the Longhorns are coming home - hopefully to a house full of fans. And that leads me to expectations.

As I heard fans talk last week about how Texas was going to win the Notre Dame game I reminded them the O-line was bad last year, and three of those players were back this year.

The only difference? Two true freshmen were going to start.

Two true freshmen starting are not going to save your offensive line on the road against Notre Dame, which had six of seven starters up front on defense back this season.

The quarterback needs to step up in the pocket, know where his bailout is when protection breaks down and be accurate on the short and intermediate routes that move the chains. Do these things and the offense is instantly better.

I saw a lot more opportunity for Tyrone Swoopes to make some plays. But either he left the pocket before the rush truly got there, didn't know where to bail out with his eyes still downfield or simply missed on his throws.

Texas didn't do the little things offensively Saturday night, and that is why they scored 3 points off of one single pass play.

Football is a simple game and this allows simple minded people like me to be able to play it. I watch the center snap the ball and see what the 5 guys up front do against the 7 guys on the other side of the ball.

What I look for first is knowledge and effort. Those two things are a must, a given and are inexcusable if absent.

All players will be beat physically at times. Effort and knowing your job is up to you. If I don’t see these two things, I would keep going through the roster to find someone who will do these two things. If they're not on the roster, you're in trouble, and you go find it in recruiting. And Charlie Strong is bringing in guys who will always give you effort. He doesn't have enough of them yet. From a depth standpoint, he probably needs one more recruiting class to get there.

Give me 5 offensive lineman who know their job and give great effort, and we can go win a few games. Give me 5 who can do these two things with talent, and we can go win a championship.

After watching the first series, I can tell you that this offensive line is night and day better than last year. Why? Because of what I saw from Connor Williams' technique. If that's what Joe Wickline is teaching, then I come away from the Notre Dame game convinced Joe Wickline is a top offensive line coach.

I can see what he wants these guys to do, and he finally has a guy in Williams who can actually do it.

Last year, Texas was not athletically gifted enough on the OL to execute the scheme Wickline wants.

What he wants are athletic guys who can move - and not slow guys who are fat. He inherited a program that had slow, fat guys.

When I was in Denver, we were the smallest line in the league. Our three inside guys (two guards and center) averaged 285. Yet somehow, we led the league in rushing every year and blocked for a 2,000 rusher (Terrell Davis).

We did this by understanding the scheme and being quick. This line will get there. And Wickline is the kind of coach to get them there.

What I have enjoyed this week is idiot analysts trying to break down the offense line. You would be shocked how many people in football don’t know what the offensive line is doing.

Almost no one outside of football knows what the offensive line is doing. When you read about the play of offensive lineman, always check your source. Never trust anyone who has not either coached or played the position, and I don’t mean played it in high school.

Below is what I see when I watched film of the Texas offensive line Saturday night:

1. LT Connor Williams is the best offensive player on this team - not just offensive lineman - best offensive player on this team. I don’t care that he is a freshman. He plays hard and knows what he is doing. Four more guys like him, and Texas will win some games.

He needs to improve in his pass blocking, as does every young lineman. Pass pro is the hardest thing to master. Not one high school offensive lineman understands how to pass pro. They have never faced rushers like they will see in college.

In high school, you can get away with being aggressive in pass blocking. In college you have to learn perfect technique - while going backwards. Not easy to do.

What I like most from Williams was his cutting. When you cut backside you create seams that Vahe could run through. It also slows downs the pass rusher on pass plays. I survived 8 years in Denver cutting guys. I love it!

2. Freshman OG Patrick Vahe has promise, but has a long way to go. He is obviously a big guy who should be able to run guys over. Right now his feet freeze when he makes contact.

Once he puts it all together and learns to drive his feet while making contact he’s going to be good. I want him to run through linebackers instead of just trying to block them. He will in time. He also looks lost in pass pro. He is still trying to learn who he is supposed to be blocking on stunts and blitzes. It will come.

3. OG Sed Flowers, C Taylor Doyle, RT Kent Perkins - they are what we saw last year for the most part. Doyle gives great effort, Flowers strength is run blocking, and Perkins is a guard playing tackle. Their play has improved from last year and the whole unit has improved.

I know, they were so bad last year they can only go up. True, but I see a glimmer of hope that they will not only be better, but they may be good by the time they play Baylor.​

What I saw was one of the five breaking down on any given play, and this offense is not good enough to make up for that. Get the consistency that you need on offense and these breakdowns will get less and less and when they do happen a playmaker will step up and make a play.

An offensive lineman’s dream is 3rd and 2. Their nightmare is 3rd and 4.

I challenge any of you to go stop 315 pounds moving forward while you are moving backwards 30+ plus times a night. If it sounds hard, it is! I think these 5 guys together will get this team to where it wants to be at the end of the year.

When you see a QB pressured it is not always the offensive line's fault. You would be shocked how many coaches don’t understand that.

I have had to explain offensive line play to a few head football coaches before.

There are 11 guys on offense, and you could point to anyone of them during a game and show a physical error. What kills you is when it is one per play and that stops the play. Everyone on offense needs to be more consistent. I don’t care if you’re running the Wing T or spread. This will always be true. It’s not the scheme, it’s the execution.

The reason this offense did not work is it missed opportunities for easy plays and had too many negative plays and inconsistency. When you make a throw on a slant or drag route to an open receiver there has to be a completion.

I said during the game I’m not worried about Notre Dame. I’m worried about Baylor. If Texas played like they did last night at the end of the year, then it is time to worry.

Until that point, I am all in with Strong and what Wickline is teaching on the offensive line.

I believe this team is going to beat Baylor at the end of the year. That's right. Even after Saturday night.

Now, I need this team to believe they are going to beat Baylor at the end of the year!
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Good read. If anyone knows, it is Dan Neil. Love watching him and David Thomas on LHN. Not homers by any means. They are, but I mean they don't pull punches on calling out bad effort, etc. if he is encouraged by what he saw as far as technique, then that is good enough for me. :hookem:
 
If you need any proof at all, look at what has happened to OSU's rushing attack since he left.

They can't run effectively against Central Michigan.
 
That's encouraging... I'm concerned that we're going to have a recruiting black hole in that year-plus where that group gets it together, but the good news is that if we can keep the existing classes intact, we've got good skill people and a couple of very good QB prospects coming. If we can shore that up, plus get the young DBs up to speed, we're certainly headed in the right direction. The issues on DL and in the kicking game are the ones that don't seem to have a solution in site at this point.
 
As to the DLine, we need a stud at DE. Watching Miles Garrett, that kid could play pro ball right now. He's so friggin fast he was almost un-blockable. Last time we had a guy like that was Rak in 08. You can't run at him and you can't run away from him. And you better put a RB on him or he's going to get a sack. One player at that caliber completely changes the D. Still kills me Rak was hurt on Tech's last drive. Who knows if he would have made the play to end the game. But we need some DE's and safeties in the worst way on D.
 
After watching the first series, I can tell you that this offensive line is night and day better than last year. Why? Because of what I saw from Connor Williams' technique. If that's what Joe Wickline is teaching, then I come away from the Notre Dame game convinced Joe Wickline is a top offensive line coach.
I have the utmost respect for Dan. But come on...even the sunshine pumpers aren't pushing this. He thinks we should beat Baylor.

He may be spot on. But the thing is, they look terrible. They look worse than last year. So what Dan and ultimately CS are selling is a promise that we buy on nothing but blind faith. Only a handful of coaches with an unimpeachable track record and national championships could get away with something like that. And there are some schools where that's how they build their program (more often it's just getting "lucky"). CS isn't one of those coaches and Texas ain't one of those schools.
 
You would be shocked how many people in football don’t know what the offensive line is doing.

I'm not sure they know what they are doing either.

When you see a QB pressured it is not always the offensive line's fault. You would be shocked how many coaches don’t understand that.

When multiple players, without a blitz from the D, are routinely breaking through and forcing the QB to abandon the play before any of the receivers have gotten to the proper spots in their routes yet, whose fault is it though? It's more than just "one guy per play, a different guy each play", because if that results in what we just saw, then the scheme is unworkable b/c that one guy wasn't going to stop 3 pass rushers.
 
I'm not sure they know what they are doing either.



When multiple players, without a blitz from the D, are routinely breaking through and forcing the QB to abandon the play before any of the receivers have gotten to the proper spots in their routes yet, whose fault is it though? It's more than just "one guy per play, a different guy each play", because if that results in what we just saw, then the scheme is unworkable b/c that one guy wasn't going to stop 3 pass rushers.

Then the problem is the QB not finding the open receiver. They mentioned this on ESPN college football today.
 
Great post from an all time great. I think that Norvell will make a difference this year. Charlie did the right thing and we are moving forward.
 
Dan Neil. Wasn't he a capt. on the 1995 team? The team that flipped the Aggies streak.
16-6 at Kyle.lots of respect for Lineman. They rarely get any praise, and are the first to be blamed.
Nice insight.
 
Awesome post. Dan Neil was a great Longhorn and Denver Bronco, a super nice guy in person, and you have to respect his opinions. If anyone knows offensive line play, and importance, he does.
And I loved the quip, "it's not the scheme, it's the execution." This should be tattooed on a few posters' foreheads so they can look at it in a mirror.
 
Thank you Dan for your great analysis. And giving us hope.
Hopefully positive things you discussed develops quickly this season.
We all need to remember 22 freshman started Saturday night. And it was against one of the best Notre Dame teams in 30 years. Certainly deserving of it's number eleven rank!
 
Promising to hear his take on the technique being coached. We have lost a large number of guys on the OLine the last 2 years and recruited a bunch this past class so like he said 1 more class and the depth will be there. Crazy to think that we have 2 true freshman from the 2015 class starting but 4 more from that class are likely to redshirt and be there for depth next year. And then you have the 3 OL from the 2014 class that are still being developed. 7 OL on our depth chart that are either true frosh (4) or RS Frosh (3). Going to take some time to develop these young players.

Just curious, where did this info come from?
 
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Then the problem is the QB not finding the open receiver.

That's a problem too, but a lot of times the QB had to abandon ship before any of the receivers had gotten far enough into their routes to even be open. It would certainly help if Swoopes, after starting to run for his life, would look back upfield a couple of seconds later and see if a WR was in the right spot, or if a defender was coming up to stop him and had left someone open as a consequence. But if he's ever going to succeed, he needs a jolt of confidence, and feeling like the DL can destroy, at will, any and all of the guys blocking for you, isn't going to allow that to happen.
 
A good football team is bigger than the sum of its parts.

That Tyrone Swoopes could make this OL look better, is just as true as this OL could make him look better.
 
Thanks for the post
i'll let the real experts explain how Dan is wrong from their experience playing NCAA 2014 EA football on the Xbox 360.
 
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