Aliens don't exist...

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HornGrad'01

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they are merely our highly evolved human selves, traveling back through time after cracking the time travel nut.

Seriously, if time travel were at all possible, did either 1) noone think my entire lifetime was worth revisiting or 2) timetravelers that did come to pay my lifetime a visit were incredibly stealth?

I understand the whole "don't disrupt the spacetime continuum" Back-to-the-Future stuff, but not one slip-up?

I posit there have been slip-ups. I call them alien encounters.

And here's one more to chew on - if you could travel only one direction in time, which would it be??

Change the past, or see the future (assuming of course that you could return to whence you came)?
 
We're the aliens man......
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I don't believe the UFO craze had any baring on reality whatsoever. That said, I think the odds of there being intelligent life outside the solar system is 100%. I believe this is true for the same reason that I also believe that we will never make meaningful contact with extra solar life... because the universe is simply too big to believe anything else.

As to time travel... we'll I don't believe in such a thing. Which is to say, I believe in forward time travel (we do it every day), but backward time travel requires a universe too weird for me to wrap my mind around. If the arrow doesn't point in one direction physics as we understand them are garbage... and they really don't appear to be garbage.

If UFOs represent a "visitation", I find it far more likely that the visitors left in our past than in our future.

My 2 bits.
 
Secret data allegedly disclosed on 'visitors' from space, government projects

Steve Hammons
August 21, 2006
Information was released to the public today about contact between the United States Government (USG) and visiting beings from outside our planet.

The sources of the data are alleged to be government insiders associated with the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA).

The information was released at 8:00 a.m. Pacific Daylight Time through an e-mail stream list that includes many persons with scientific, military, intelligence and other backgrounds.

The new releases are alleged to be part of the process of "disclosure" about the decades-long discoveries, research and operations of the USG regarding contact with intelligent beings from other planets and star systems.

Types of visitors, history of contact with the human race and USG-sponsored research on advanced technology acquired through the visitors are parts of the new information.

A gradual, planned and appropriate release of this kind of sensitive information to the American and international public on these topics has reportedly been underway for many years. This most recent disclosure is alleged to be part of the program of a steady process of education on these kinds of subjects.

The complete verbatim report as sent on the e-mail stream has been posted on a well-known public Web site,The Link

VISITORS TO EARTH

According to sources cited in the new information, some of the terms for types of extraterrestrial visitors to Earth include the following:

Ebens (from the Zeta Reticuli star system)

Archquloids (no further details presented)

Quadloids (no further details presented)

Heplaloids (no further details presented)

Trantaloids (no further details presented)

According to the information released, visitors have made contact with USG authorities by landing in the U.S. for meetings or providing some kind of direct communication on the following dates:

April 1964 - Socorro, New Mexico (NM)

April 1969 - White Sands, NM

April 1971 - White Sands, NM

April 1977 - White Sands, NM

November 1983 - Unknown location, but believed to have been Kirtland

Air Force Base, NM

November 1990 - White Sands, NM

November 1997 - Nevada Test Site

November 1998 - Nevada Test Site

November 1998 - Nevada Test Site

November 1999 - Nevada Test Site

November 2001 - Nevada Test Site

The next formal contact date of this kind by the types of visitors the USG has had the most contact with is alleged to be:

November 2009 - Nevada Test Site

In the information released today, there was no further indication about informal visits to Earth, contact with individual average persons, the plans and agendas of the visitors, or other additional details of this kind.

The moderator of the e-mail stream did include, as background, information that has been previously made public about an alleged "Red Book" maintained by elements of the USG about visitor contact and the "Yellow Book" maintained by the visitors.

According to this background information, "'The Red Book' is an extremely thick, very detailed account summary written and compiled by the U.S. Government on UFO investigations dating from 1947 to the present day. This orange-brownish book is updated every five years and also contains some cross-over information from 'The Yellow Book.'"

The background also describes "The Yellow Book" as "the aliens' history of our universe written by the aliens themselves as well as their interactions and involvement with Earth's development/evolution. It was brought to Earth and presented to the U.S. Government at the famous Holloman AFB [Air Force Base] landing in April 1964 by female [visitor, known as] EBE #2 which was also translated by her."

According to the e-mail stream moderator, "Steven Spielberg's 1977 film, CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND is based on the famous Holloman landing as well as the human-ET exchange depicted at the very end with 10 (ten) men and two (2) women who are shown embarking on the alien spacecraft."

In recent public information releases starting in November 2005, it has been claimed the Spielberg´s film also dealt somewhat accurately with a USG-visitor exchange program called Project CRYSTAL KNIGHT.

This program reportedly involved selecting and training a team of U.S. military personnel for a planned 10-year stay on the home planet of the so-called Ebens in the Zeta Reticuli star system.

During the planning and implementation of the program, the effort was code-named Project CRYSTAL KNIGHT. Upon the return of the remainder of the U.S. team 12 years later, the code name was reportedly changed to Project SERPO.

TECHNOLOGY ACQUISITION

The claims released today describe several types of advanced technology shared by and/or acquired from the visitors through USG-sponsored efforts and activities.

One technology is the production of a substance called "Pentagen" (the fifth isotope of hydrogen) or "Hydrogen-5."

According to the new information, government researchers have built facilities to research Pentagen. The complex process of understanding and utilizing Pentagen is described in some scientific detail in the information release.

Another technology discussed is an "unlimited power" energy device referred to as the "Crystal Rectangle (CR)." It is also allegedly referred to as the "Particle Vacuum Enhanced Energy Device."


It was reportedly retrieved in 1947 from a second crashed spacecraft found near Roswell, New Mexico.

Scientists made many efforts over subsequent decades to understand how the CR works. A detailed timeline of research operations into the CR from the late 1940s to 2002 is described in the information released.

The long-rumored USG efforts to comprehend and reproduce the technology of visitor flying air/spacecraft are also addressed in the new information. A "historical" timeline of such research is alleged to include:

1957: First attempt to test Roswell capture craft's propulsion system. Test was conducted in Area 8, Unit 3c.

1961: First attempt to fly repaired Roswell craft in Area 29, unit 1b.

1962: Radiation tests conducted on Roswell craft by Los Alamos in Area 18, unit 3Z.

1964: Explosion caused by experimental propulsion system placed in Roswell craft, Area 7, unit 19S.

1968: First successful flight of Roswell craft (with U.S. propulsion system; old nuclear propulsion system) Area 29, unit 1B.

1970: Explosion caused by the visitors´ propulsion system Area 25, unit 8B.

The information also details several USG-sponsored projects, contractors and locations dealing with research into aspects of visitor air/spacecraft technology and related matters.

Communication devices that allow U.S. personnel to have contact with the visitors at great distances are also described.

According to the accounts, this communication technology may direct "multiple frequencies in a particular direction. High speed sending system allows the beam to be propelled at an enormous speed." This process may use chemical lasers in "pushing the communication beam."

Additional alleged aspects of this technology include several frequencies "put together on a beam and propelled towards a target or receiver. The receiver then boosts the energy and re-sends the signal to another point." A relay system of sorts may then convey the signal through deep space.

PEOPLE ON "THE PROJECT"

The new information also details government officials, scientists, military officers, elements of the USG and military, private contractors and others involved with the many aspects of this challenging situation over the decades.

In an effort to limit the scope of details of such information here, these will not be specifically listed. However, the list includes persons associated with some of the most prestigious universities in the U.S. Respected scientists, some well known and some not so famous are also noted for their involvement.

Divisions of major companies involved in projects from high-tech military and space equipment to televisions and cars are also reported to have been involved.

Major branches and operations of the U.S. military and various elements of the U.S. intelligence community are also noted.

Project code names for the many separate programs exploring different aspects of the visitor phenomena and technology are also included in the information release.

HOW MUCH IS TRUE?

Over the past decades, many reports and rumors have made their way into the public arena about the so-called "Roswell Incident," visitors from deep space, secret USG projects on UFOs and similar topics.

These accounts have made their way into books, movies, TV and even advertisements, T-shirts, toys, children´s cartoons, music videos and all types of media. The Internet is full of Web sites that explore these kinds of subjects too.

Separating fact from fiction and looking at the fear and fun of contact with extraterrestrial visitors is part of our lives in the 21st Century, whether we like it or not.

It is difficult to know how much of the information presented today or that which has surfaced in the past is accurate, somewhat truthful or mostly fiction.

The people who have reported information to the public about the Roswell crashes in 1947 and the activities that followed have often been credible military officers and others whose perspectives seem valid and authentic.

The idea that in 1947 USG officials feared that the public would be quite fearful about visitors from outer space seems very reasonable. The desire to acquire advanced technology and maintain the security of it from hostile Cold War nations on Earth also seems natural.

The complexity and significance of this kind of situation from 1947 until now probably cannot be underestimated, if true. As a result, it could be that some leaders concluded that Americans and the human race would best able to learn about these developments through slow and discreet methods of sharing this kind of information.

Maybe today´s information is another chapter in testing the intelligence of the American people and people around the world. Maybe it is an effort to take us to another level of understanding of ourselves, our activities on Earth and a future for the human race that is brighter, full of hope and brings us closer to comprehending the plans of our Creator.

For more information, please visit:The Link
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Why dont they reveal themself to us is because if they did it would cause a general panic. Now i mean we still have leaders upon whom we rely for the release of this information, these leaders have decided to repress this information because of the tremendous shock that it would cause to our antiquated systems....Now the result of this has been that the Venusians have contacted people at all walks of life...all walks of life, hahah yes... it would be a devestating blow to our antiquated system so now venusians are meeting with people in all walks of life, in an advisory capacity. For once man will have a godlike control over his own destiny, he will have a chanse to trenscend and to evolve with some equality for all.
 
didn't Hawkings say the proof that time travel will never exist is because we don't have tourists visiting us right now.....

pretty well sums it up for me
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