7th in scoring/217th in scoring defense

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bierce

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Looking back to September threads, it appears that we went into the season wondering who would provide consistent outside shooting, whether the team could shoot better than 65% ft, and who could step up as a point guard who could dribble, shoot, and run an offense.

Texas didn't ever find anyone to provide consistent outside shooting, didn't hit 65% on its free throws, and no one emerged as a point guard who could shoot, force the tempo, and create opportunities for teammates in the half court.

Yet Texas finished 7th in the nation in scoring.

It finished 217th in scoring defense.

I strongly urge all to seriously consider those numbers when assessing the season and coaching decisions.

Texas was a very uptempo team, so the KenPom adjusted efficiency ratings are nearly equal at 27/26.
 
No, actually the opposite. Everyone on here complains that Barnes is a terrible offensive coach and that his coaching strength and focus is on defense. He obviously isn't that terrible of an offensive coach, although I agree we could change some things. We ALL know he isn't a poor defensive coach, but when you are 217th you aren't going to be successful. Add in the 300+ in FT % and it's amazing we were 24-10.

Barnes still didn't do a great job this year, but it's not as much about X's and O's as it was about his inability to get EVERYONE to buy into a team defensive concept. Defense is like an offensive line in football. Everyone has to work together or the play (D) is going to look like $h!t

Good post beirce.
 
Tells me 7th in scoring and 217th in scoring defense is the exact formula for being 1 and done in tourney play. Tells me that despite having a defensive minded coach, Texas stunk on defense. Tells me Texas scored usually enough to win, but like Texas Tech football, the defense wasn't formidable. Doesn't help that free throw shooting and rocket science had the same level of difficulty, late in games. Tells me that after 10yrs that Texas bball is spinning its wheels under Coach Barnes. He has everything at his disposal, but has managed to do nothing without the Naismith player of the year.

I don't know what the KenPom ratings are, and what being equal means in those ratings. What kind of rating do the teams in the sweet 16 have? Is Texas equivalent, better, worse?
 
Point differential and turnover ratio is far more important to gauge how well an offense is doing. Sure, we scored 103 against UNC. Yet they were still in the game until the last minutes.

I'd much rather finish unranked in scoring offense and have more wins, more rebounds, more assists, and fewer turnovers.
 
We were actually #1 in scoring defense before things went south. That's a pretty long fall to 217.
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Imagine how good our offense would be with an effective PG an outside shooter, and a passing grade at the FT line...Until then, we'll be the 3rd best team in the state.
 
Defense...clap clap....Defense.....clap clap....Defense...

Frantic, psychotically active defense wins over any offense any day. The winningest 7th Grade teams create chaos with defense.....and the winningest NCAA teams too.

Thanks for confirming my theory. Forced turnovers, steals, defensive rebounds, and opponent shooting %....important stuff!
 
There are 3 types of lies: there are lies, damn lies and statistics. Sure our offense scored plenty of points against teams that played no defense. It was against the good teams where we really needed a movement offense to counteract their intense defense: KU, KState, Baylor, etc. Obviously shooting is part of an offense as well and as long as I can remember, Rick Barnes has never fielded teams that were good shooters and much of that is because of the shot selection that his offense generates. I understand the argument that we finished 7th in the nation in scoring but much of that scoring was done against teams that we just dominated physically. An offense that has a clue rarely goes on an 0-22 run at home against any team.
 
" I would still think an offense that scores 100 ppg is better that one that scores 75 but has a +15 pt differential."

Then we'd be in disagreement. Yes, it's the offense's job to score. Ball control is equally (if not more) important. If you can keep the other team from scoring not through your half court defense, but by controlling the tempo on offense, then it doesn't matter if you're not scoring as many points, because you're far better than a fast break team who also allows fast break points.

It's an offense's job to run a scheme that puts every player in a position to help. Look at the 2003 team. You had a PG who could basically dish wherever he wanted on the floor, two off guards who were capable of driving and shooting jumpers, two (sometimes three) post guys who could nab the offensive boards in case of misfire, two specialists who basically only shot threes, and a couple of other workhorses to take up minutes. Did the 2010 offense accomplish even half of this? And yet they had the "#7 offense in college basketball." Sure.
 
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