3.8 million Toyotas recalled and..

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The Bandit

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this is how they instructed the dealers to fix your Toyota or Lexus. Couldn't they at least us zip ties that match the carpet?


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Complete instructions here.
 
My Camry is one that was recalled. I'd rather die in a head on with flames coming out of my tires because I cannot slow down than have a white zip tie on my floor mats.
 
You say that now, but if you were careening down the road at 120 MPH and couldn't stop like one owner reported, you might think differently.

On a serious note - not that the above isn't deathly serious - didn't Toyota also have hundreds of thousands of Tundras recalled because the under body was corroding prematurely, causing spare tires and other parts to fall off?

The company once known for unsurpassed quality is taking a PR hit with these issues and it couldn't have come at a worse time.
 
They also just re-opened themselves to millions of dollars of litigation, when it was recently disclosed that they had for years intentionally been withholding extremely damning evidence that they had been required under the law to produce in lawsuits.
 
I think Honda had one of these a few years back, maybe some other manufacturers. Apparently, when some driver mashes their floormat up under the pedal assembly and has a wreck, some lawyers find this to be the cause and sue the manufacturers. So they have to spend a few million recalling all the cars and duct tape the floor mats to the floor. They should tie wrap them through the lawyer's nose instead.
 
i think the passenger called 911 just to let them know what was happening. wouldn't you? if i was going to die, i would want the world to know that it was the car's fault not mine.

this latimes article explains that the sudden acceleration maybe electronic and not the floormats.
 
Floormats that take over a car and cause deaths, car that accelerate on their own and run over people in their garages.
Brought to you by the lawyer of your choice.
Floormats don't kill people, cars don't accelerate on their own and kill people. People make terrible mistakes and kill people, then they either won't or can't accept the fact that they did it, and sue the car manufacturers.
Some car designs are flawed, I don't mean to say there has never been a problem, but floormats? Cars jumping out of gear and accelerating in the garage? Doesn't compute.
 
I had a VW Passat that on 2 occasions excelerated HARD on it's own... I did what you are supposed to do... slammed my right foot down on the accelerator and it unstuck the pedal. I will say that it is SCARY as crap when your car is at full acceleration without your input.

Also, Toyota is not at the top of quality any more. The Fusion for instance BLOWS the Camry away.
 
Toyota lost me, and I was a true believer.

Exterior door handles on my wife's car have broken 3 times. Simply shattered.

My Toyota, made many years before, has never had this problem. The door handles are steel, rather than the plastic crap put on my wife's car.

Toyota has been utterly unconcerned when I approached them.

There's no reason to pay a premium for quality when it isn't there.
 
Cars don't have ghosts, they don't hold you hostage, they don't drive into your family in the garage by themselves.
What happens is people panic and think they are hitting the brake, but they are hitting the gas harder and harder, and can't accept the fact.
The floormat can get under the gas pedal, so can a bottle or and burger carryout box, or a pen or something, but you should be able to flip it up with your foot, or turn the car off, or shift it into neutral or whatever.
When Volvo got hit with that "sudden acceleration" business back in the 70's or 80's, which was totally bogus, not one shred of credible evidence to it, suddenly there were hundreds of "sudden acceleration" lawsuits against every manufacturer. This went on for years.
Now I'll bet the same thing happens. Every wreck is going to have some lawyer suing a manufacturer for sudden acceleration syndrome.
The result last time was the neutral safety parking lock system, where every car made won't shift out of park unless the driver's foot in on the brake pedal. It is a whole extra system of mechanical and electrical parts, which does fail sometimes, whereby you can't take the car out of park. That's fun.
Now they will have to add some more complication because these few wrecks are being blamed on manufacturers instead of drivers, who never are at fault anymore, its always the road, a pothole, the car, or something.
If they are making cars with fuel systems that catch on fire, or wheels that fall off, that is liability, but claiming stuff like this just doesn't pass the smell test.
 
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