2011 stars

Speedway

Speedway

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Not that it matters, or that anyone cares, certainly the TEXAS coaches do not, but I'm guessing the star rankings for the 17 2011 commits are going to be:

One will get a 5 star ranking
Thirteen will get a 4 star ranking
Three will get a 3 star ranking

Pretty much par for the course with TEXAS recruiting lately.
 
I would hope for three 5 star players in the state this year - that would likely give us 2 already and maybe 3 if Brown commits (Flowers, Jackson). I could also see Green as one of the 3. Do not buy the argument that there are not as many elite players in Texas as last year. Too many 5 star ratings are given to players from weaker talent states and to players in the Southeast.
 
An interesting study (which I have not the motivation to carry out) would be to look at what percent of ***** players from Texas make it the NFL versus the percentage from "lesser football" states. I know we have the perception that our homegrown blue-chippers are given unfair treatment, but does the data bear that out down the line?
 
There was a thread that mentioned some of this recently:

forums.hornfans.com/php/wwwthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=recruiting&Number=6147176&page=2&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&fpart=

According to the data crunching there, out of all the 1st round draft picks since 1988 the following % came from these states:

15% - Florida
10-13% - California (13% 1988 to present, 10.4% 2000 to present)
9% - Texas

Texas produces some of the top talent of any states but it would seem less than California and Florida. Though in recent years Texas has gotten much closer to California.

Now that is just looking at 1st round draft picks. If you look at the total # of draftees since 2000 here is the breakdown:

13% - California
11.04% - Texas
10.84% - Florida

Thus Florida has the most top end talent (going by 1st round selections). California has the 2nd best top end talent (by 1st round selections) and the deepest talent pool overall (going by total # of draft picks overall). Texas is 2nd best in the deepness of its talent pool and gaining on california for 2nd place on top end talent.
 
I don't think Flowers gets a 5th star. OG prospects are generally not placed at a premium by Rivals. There have only been a handful that I remember who were among the top kids in the country, according to Rivals.

I went back and poured over the Rivals100 for the last several years. I found a few more OG than I expected, but not many. It should be noted that these are how the kids were classified originally, not according to their eventual position in college. Stephen Good was a 5* but was ranked as a OT, even though he currently plays OG for OU.

2010: none
2009: none
2008: none
2007: James Wilson, Tray Allen, Kristofer O'Dowd
2006: Stephen Schilling, Carl Johnson
2005: none
2004: none
2003: Ofa Mohetau

I agree about Brown and Jackson, though.
 
HDPh, I recall that thread, but I was thinking of a comparison that involved 5* players to help determine whether 5* players from "weak" states were less likely to make it to the NFL, their stars perhaps having been given for reasons other than merely their prospects as great players. Wow, was that one sentence? Sorry.
 
I know Rivals tries to make everyone feel good about their recruiting areas, but if the talent is not there - don't rate them as high. I know a lot of the population lives up the East coast, but if the talent in NJ is not as good as the talent in FL, TX, or CA - call it what it is.

As for the draft picks - you have to be careful because certain positions are given a premium in the draft - QB, CB and OT are all taken much more often in the first round compared to other positions. I would think you would have to look at the draft as a whole.
 
there are 2 5-stars in texas--jackson and m brown

there are another 8-10 Natl Top 100 caliber players:
 
I agree with Brown and Jackson. But I would raise you a Mr. Steve Edmond.

And Evans may not be a 5 star due to # crunching but I bet he plays like a 5 star once on campus.
 
five stars, my hiney. what the hell is so important about five stars?

did you ever notice that high four-stars are rated 6.0 by the rivals queens and the five-stars are rated 6.1? what the hell is so important about that .1?

we are being sucker played by those manipulators.
 
As I said at the first, "Not that it matters, or that anyone cares, certainly the TEXAS coaches do not." And make no mistake; I think the TEXAS coaches are the only ones who matter, not any star ranking system.

I stated on this thread how I thought Rivals would rank the 17 verbals so far. I might as well have wondered what Good Housekeeping would mean in regards to what matters with these 17 verbals. Nothing, the stars and Rivals rankings mean nothing. Hope that pretty well sums up the difference between 6.0 and 6.1 on Rivals in my book.

But as with any Beauty Contest, I think it’s amusing to see who is crowned, that is all, nothing else. It really is pure amusement.
 
sorry, speedway. i noticed what you said and i wasn't commenting on you. just in general how we all get worked up like 6.1 is such a big deal.

go: huh?
 
Sorry, bad writing. I guess I meant I agree with the 6.0 vs. 6.1 being a stupid comparison, but that doesn't actually mean they only think they are .1 better or something like that. The rankings, on the other hand, I'm saying I do find to hold some validity.
 
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