2 recruiting questions

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Texas Renegade

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Ok, I don't follow recruiting near like I used to, but just two curious observations I am not quite able to make sense about.

1. The drop off in 5 stars. Looking at Rivals we currently do not have a single 5 star this year, and I don't think we did last year either(may very well be mistaken). Even Notre Dame and their blimp of a coach has 3 5 stars. Not being negative, just curious why it seems the last few years we have had issues getting 5 stars compared to the earlier years under Mack.

2. ATM's recruiting rank: Not sure what they are tanked elsewhere, but one of the guys on the radio the other day here in Houston said scout.com had them as the #3 class in the country. I thought they were having horrible recruiting all this fall?
 
Rivals is very stingy when it comes to handing out that 5th* and often limits a state to 2 or 3 despite the talent level. Scout is more generous and we have 2 5*s there. The rankings are opinion, and outside a couple players in the whole country, the line between 5* and high 4* is very subjective.

a&m has the #4 class on scout due to sheer volume. you get a certain number of points for each recruit, which contributes to the team rankings. a&m is listed with 28 commits but an average rating of only 3.2 and 0 top 100 players. UT is ranked 12 because they only have 20 recruits but have an average rating of 3.7 and 5 top 100 players.
I doubt anyone thinks a&ms class is better talent wise than ohio states, which according to scout has 7 5*s and an average rating of 3.88, but only has 17 commits so theyre down at 14.
 
We had two 5 stars last year (Trey Allen and Curtis Brown). John Chiles lost his 5th star right before signing day (reportedly because he played in the all-star game with an injured thigh).

A&M is high on Scout's list due to quantity, not quality. They have nearly 30 commits. If we land Scott, we'll overtake them with only 21 commits.
 
As was mentioned, TAMU is bringing in a solid class with the final ranking being more a product of # of ships than anything else. I think the TAMU class should be ranked somewhere between 12-17 depending on: (a) keeping Rod Davis, (b) whether or not you want to discount certain players who may not qualify, and (c) where you rank guys like Dorman and Furtch.
 
Some of the 4* recruits UT now have would be 5* in other states. When Rivals limits only a certain amount of 5*s to a State you don't get a true picture of who is the five stars are.

With the Scout ranking aggy so high should tell you just what it is worth if one were wanting to sudscribe.
 
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Can't believe I'm making this argument, but..

Michael Huff was a 3 star. George Walker was a 4 star. Our freshmen 4 star OLs played better last year than the 5 star OL.

History shows us that ratings are best guesses at the time they are made, based maybe half on observed performance and half on potential. Ratings are really subjective.

Here is a strange one that everyone accepts without a question. Why did Gilbert get a 5th star, which was given to him while throwing passes in his back yard months after the last game he played?

Everyone who evaluated Huff was basically dead wrong.

I look at the players working the hardest with the best attitude throughout their college careers, and those are the guys getting it done. If there is a star rating for that quality, I haven't seen it.
 
My personal opinions: The 2 and 3 stars don't mean anything to me. Right now with 30 recruits for A&M, both UT and ou have a lot less committed, but have more 4 and 5 star athletes than A&M.

UT has 12, ou 15, and A&M only 9 four and five stars. But UT is in the running for that 5 star RB from calif, ou is looking strong for the five star WR jones and another four star LB, and A&M has a shot at a four star WR from kty.

I ran the numbers for average 4 and 5 star athletes recruited the last five years and those averages were: UT 13, ou 13, and A&M only 6 four and five star athletes signed each year!


I was running these numbers to get a handle on how A&M's new coaching staff compared on recruiting?

Well, with the staff almost complete, their 5 year numbes show that all 10 coaches, as projected, recruited a total of 2 four and five star athletes. Depending on which projected hire fills the last position, that number could jump to 5!

That projects to 1 per year; do you believe that?


As an Aggie, I'm not happy at all with our recruiting. My real comments would get me suspended!

Regards.

miller58
 
the "limited 5 stars from a single state" is not a hard and fast rule, if I'm not mistaken. Its more of a guideline. Usually Texas tops out at 3 5-stars per year.

There is hardly any difference between a high 4-star and a 5-star. I like looking at the following stats:

(1) # of Natl Top 100 players
(2) # of High 3-star players (rival ranking of 5.7 and up) or better
 
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